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Offline hammer

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Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« on: May 22, 2009, 09:47:15 AM »
I would like to see bomber drones limited to the type’s top speed when closing up a formation.

As it currently stands, a formation moving at top speed can get separated by quite a distance and, as long as the maximum distance has not been reached, the drones still catch up with the lead ship; often warping while they do. This should not be possible unless the lead ship throttles back and allows the drones to catch up. If the lead ship continues to maintain full speed, the drones should not be able to close the distance and the formation should remain out of position.

Note that this is not a request to limit the top speed of the bombers. While I feel having bombers, particularly in formation, flying at speeds well above what they normally flew during missions takes away from the reality factor, I feel it would be hypocritical of me to support limiting the top speed of the bombers. I do feel it would be reasonable, however, to remove the ability of drones to catch up with a lead bomber that has destroyed the integrity of the formation through maneuvering and is still motoring away at full throttle / top speed.

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« Last Edit: May 22, 2009, 09:51:59 AM by hammer »
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2009, 09:49:57 AM »
Good wish Hammer.  Can we politely include fixing the drone warps in this wish?  It would seem to be implied in what you said above.
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2009, 01:41:44 PM »
As far as I'm aware, the drones are rendered on the bomber pilot's computer. So if the bomber pilot is warping, the drones will be warping.
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2009, 01:54:15 PM »
No, that's different.  Drones warp if the lead bomber maneuvers too much for them to keep up, but not enough for them to "pop."
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2009, 01:54:49 PM »
Many times the lead buff is rock solid but the drones warp while catching up. This happens when the lead has maneuvered and the formation is spread out.

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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 02:12:18 PM »
Do you guys know if it appears the exact same way on the bomber pilot's end? If so, then I was indeed wrong.
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2009, 02:29:52 PM »
I've never noticed it while flying buffs, but I do that very rarely.

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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 02:43:15 PM »
+1.  I've always thought it strange that the drones have WEP of some sort...   :confused:
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 02:49:22 PM »
Quote from: Denholm on May 22, 2009, 02:12:18 PM
Do you guys know if it appears the exact same way on the bomber pilot's end? If so, then I was indeed wrong.

Yes.  I see it whenever I do an immelmann to reverse course in a 4 engined bomber. :devil
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2009, 03:43:52 PM »
So it's rendered on the server, then. Thanks for the information.
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 09:18:24 PM »
Taking it one step further, I'd much rather have the "leash" shortened by 1/4 of what it is now. Those bombers should pop instantly if you deviate from normal, steady, flight.

I'd also suggest drones can't fly faster than cruise settings, so if you take the additional bombs and guns, you have to slow down to keep them. This is a request somebody brought up long ago that I've always liked, and it ties in nicely with Hammer's recent request.
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 09:21:34 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on May 22, 2009, 09:18:24 PM
and it ties in nicely with Hammer's recent request.

No it doesn't.  His request specifically relates to only that one aspect of flight that he mentions.  On the other hand, your adendum does square nicely with your general belief that bombers should be nerfed.
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 09:37:14 PM »
If bombers were used at anywhere near their potential in this game, they would need to be nerfed...
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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2009, 07:42:54 AM »
Quote from: Krusty on May 22, 2009, 09:18:24 PM
I'd also suggest drones can't fly faster than cruise settings, so if you take the additional bombs and guns, you have to slow down to keep them. This is a request somebody brought up long ago that I've always liked, and it ties in nicely with Hammer's recent request.

Actually, this directly contradicts what I said about limiting speed. If there were some way to limit formations to cruise speed for scenarios only, I would be for that. For general MA play, however, I don't support limiting speed. Not that I wouldn't like it that way, but I don't feel those restrictions belong in the MA.

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Re: Drone Speed in Buff Formations
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2009, 01:24:10 PM »
Quote from: hammer on May 23, 2009, 07:42:54 AM
...If there were some way to limit formations to cruise speed for scenarios only, I would be for that. For general MA play, however, I don't support limiting speed. Not that I wouldn't like it that way, but I don't feel those restrictions belong in the MA.

I made a suggestion for such an arena parameter a while back.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,249443.msg3066353.html#msg3066353

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