Wasserfall anti buff rocket

[Motherland]

So what do you mean when you say you can't just get close, does it do no area damage, not enough, is it because it is a shape charge it doesn't do any damage to anything it hits? And if it can take out any tank in the game then how come I don't see more people shooting at tanks with those things.

Yes, since it's an armor piercing rocket it does no splash damage and just ineffectually hit the ground if you miss. People don't use them more often because asking most ground pounders to actually use something that takes a grain of effort and practice to use is usually too much to ask. The PB1's are very difficult to aim, but if you get good with them you have enough to take down 12 tanks in one run
The R4M on the other hand is an HE rocket which would not be able to penetrate a tank, but would obliterate a bomber, or I guess as jeep if you wanted to...

Ok, so I don't remember where but I heard that the 4,000lb bomb carried by the lank and the almost 4,000lb bomb carried by the stuka can destroy a tiger but even with them if you get even around 50ft away then you will only damage them, if that is true then It would make more sense for all tank hunters to be flying Fw 190F, wouldn't it?

You can miss a Tiger pretty good and still pop it with a cookie.

[Nemisis]

ok I guess I heard wrong. I didn't know those were anti gv rockets, I will have to get some practice with them; I have been mostly using the B25 for gv killing. What do you mean by it it difficult to aim, please tell me about that and any other gremlins

[Xasthur]

ok I guess I heard wrong. I didn't know those were anti gv rockets, I will have to get some practice with them; I have been mostly using the B25 for gv killing. What do you mean by it it difficult to aim, please tell me about that and any other gremlins

How about you try it.

Then you'll see what he means by "difficult to aim". 

[Nemisis]

I cannot try it because I am a talking vegetable bent on world domination . But serisouly I would try it if I could, but every time I bring up to AH2 page on my computer it goes into restart. I am currently looking into it but it appears as if my computer meets or excedes the minimum requirments. And besides I would like to know before I try if there is anything special I should know like if they tend to fly off to the side or once the pass a certian range the begin to fall faster (IDK how but you never know). So if anyone can fill me in I would like to start out atleast walking if not running if possible.

[slimmer]

+1 on the R4m on the 262   

[LLogann]

YES.........


+1 on adding a 2nd model 262

+1 on the R4m on the 262   

[Motherland]

What do you mean? The standard R4M installation was used on the Me 262A-1a. You'd just add the R4M option in the hangar. Lusche already pointed that out earlier in the thread.
If HTC had a separate model for every Ruestsatz equipped aircraft in the game we'd have about 80 German aircraft.

"Hey look... a Bf. 109G-6/R3! that must be an extremely specialized version of the 109!"
"No, it's just a 109 with a drop tank rack"
 

[LLogann]

No......

Lusche pointed out the definition of the word Rüstsatz.  However, based on HTC standards, it is still a different model.  You may wish to read his reply again.  IF that were the case, 20mm guns should be available in a Lanc's tail position.  Think about it.

And the last 3 sentences.... ARE RIDICULOUS.  No offense young man.

What do you mean? The standard R4M installation was used on the Me 262A-1a. You'd just add the R4M option in the hangar. Lusche already pointed that out earlier in the thread.
If HTC had a separate model for every Ruestsatz equipped aircraft in the game we'd have about 80 German aircraft.

"Hey look... a Bf. 109G-6/R3! that must be an extremely specialized version of the 109!"
"No, it's just a 109 with a drop tank rack"
 

[Motherland]

How are the last 3 sentences ridiculous?

The Bf. 109G-6/R1 is the designation for a Bf. 109G-6 with the R1 bomb rack and arming mechanism Ruestsatz.
/R3 is for a drop tank rack.
/R2 is for the Wgr 21 tubes.
/R6 is for underwing 20mm gondolas.

We have all of these as options in the hangar in game. Obviously by HTC standards these are NOT different models.
In fact, since we have the WGr 21 tubes in game for several models and they are a much larger modification than the R4M's racks, the assertion that the Me 262A-1a/R1 would have to be a different model is a bit ridiculous.

Whoops sorry, the WGr 21 tubes are Ruestsatz 2, R4 is MK 108 underwing gondolas.



Just added up the in hangar options for the Fw 190 and Bf 109. If every Ruestsatz kit were a different aircraft we would have 16 different models of the Fw 190 and 59 models of the Bf 109, a total of 75 models between the two aircraft.

This is only if you have one kit per aircraft, though, no mixing, which definitely happened. So, accurately, we would have even more.

Note, though, I didn't add up any of the wing armament variations in the 190's (I don't remember if these carried separate designations), but I did add in the 30mm option for the Bf 109G-14, which in real life would have been the Bf 109G-14/U4 (standing for a factory modification).

[LLogann]

How to Lie with Statistics......... They offer that class at your highschool?

How are the last 3 sentences ridiculous?

The Bf. 109G-6/R1 is the designation for a Bf. 109G-6 with the R1 bomb rack and arming mechanism Ruestsatz.
/R3 is for a drop tank rack.
/R2 is for the Wgr 21 tubes.
/R6 is for underwing 20mm gondolas.

We have all of these as options in the hangar in game. Obviously by HTC standards these are NOT different models.
In fact, since we have the WGr 21 tubes in game for several models and they are a much larger modification than the R4M's racks, the assertion that the Me 262A-1a/R1 would have to be a different model is a bit ridiculous.

Whoops sorry, the WGr 21 tubes are Ruestsatz 2, R4 is MK 108 underwing gondolas.



Just added up the in hangar options for the Fw 190 and Bf 109. If every Ruestsatz kit were a different aircraft we would have 16 different models of the Fw 190 and 59 models of the Bf 109, a total of 75 models between the two aircraft.

This is only if you have one kit per aircraft, though, no mixing, which definitely happened. So, accurately, we would have even more.

Note, though, I didn't add up any of the wing armament variations in the 190's (I don't remember if these carried separate designations), but I did add in the 30mm option for the Bf 109G-14, which in real life would have been the Bf 109G-14/U4 (standing for a factory modification).

[100goon]

theres 2 words i dont like to see in the same subject line anti and buff

[Motherland]

How to Lie with Statistics......... They offer that class at your highschool?

Are you actually going to try to make any argument, or are you just going to sit there and make poorly veiled ad hominem attacks and call the facts 'ridiculous'?

I enjoy fruitful discussion however 'lol ur in hiskool' isn't fruitful discussion.

[LLogann]

You spelled 3 words wrong.

Are you actually going to try to make any argument, or are you just going to sit there and make poorly veiled ad hominem attacks and call the facts 'ridiculous'?

I enjoy fruitful discussion however 'lol ur in hiskool' isn't fruitful discussion.

[CountD90]

You spelled 3 words wrong.

Someone knows they're wrong. Trying to change the subject of the argument?