The Forked Tailed Devil

[Minotaur]

For the sake of continuity: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000173.html

Just for Juzz      
         

The "Droop Snout" P-38 had a Norden bomb sight installed.  One Droop Snout would often lead a squadron, for a bombing mission.  When the Droop Snout dropped its bombs so did everyone else.

This plane is painted BRIGHT red.  I will see if I can find a color photo.

Yippee
         

This was actually how I felt about the soon to be released P-38 in Ah.  I am hoping to get a late model variant (J or L), so it will more readily compete in the current arena.

P-38G Cockpit
         

         

         

All I need is the Yoke, Throttles, and Gun Triggers.  Then I will be ready to go!      

Mino

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[Fishu]

Wheres my dora or ta-152 etc. uber crap to compensate against P38, N1K2 and other uber crap?

[Hristo]

Hmm, the only thing uber about P-38 is its uber size for a fighter. Makes a nice target for deflection shots  

Now seriously, LW needs some famed fighter, not just ordinary 109s and 190s. Anything exotic will do  

[MiG Eater]

If accurately modelled, the P-38's here may be as inneffective here as they were in the pure fighter roll over Europe.  The AH arena is far closer to a European one than a south Pacific environment (with its lightly armored and slow enemy airplanes).  From gun camera films I've seen, they were quite effective for the low level interdiction (Jabo) role being able to carry lots of stores along with the two engine redunancy for a measure of survivability against flak/AAA.  Jabo's, in AH, are pretty much a non-event at this stage.

The one "uber" (I hate that word ;-) )thing about the P-38 will be the sheer numbers of people flying them upon their introduction and the discussions that will result in these message boards.  Get ready for a rollicking good time!

MiG

[Pongo]

Certainly this is a must have plane for 1944?


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Pongo
Musketeer Escadrille

[Tern]

 

Originally posted by Pongo:
Certainly this is a must have plane for 1944?

The P-38 was actually introduced from the beginning of the war through it's end.  First produced in 1933-39.    So yeah it's part of the ERA whichever one and arena you pick.

Also, I think YIPEE was painted RED after the war.  Kinda dumb advertising yerself more than is needed in combat.  



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O.E. 'Tern' Dillon
"Live to Fly!  Fly to Fight!  Fight to Live!"

[Westy]

Thanks for the pics Mino!
Never really saw the inside of a P38 cockpit before and it looks like one helluva busy place!

-westy

[Minotaur]

Notice it says P-38?

Count forward P-38, 39, 40, 47, 51 etc....

This plane has as much sigificance as the 109, for the years of use.

Mino

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[Minotaur]

Some of the more famous decendents of the P-38 and the "Skunkworks".

Check it out:  http://www.skunkworks.net/

Mino

[juzz]

Which versions of the P-38 should be featured in AH?

Early: P-38G - or the more powerful; but later and lesser produced P-38H?
Mid: P-38J - I don't think it should have the boosted ailerons and dive flaps, as only a relatively small number of J's produced had these features.
Late: P-38L

And I wouldn't say no to a droop snoot version of the J and/or L!  

[Minotaur]

I do not desire a plane that creates arena imbalance.  Just give me the correct FM modeled to the rivet.  I won't complain about any variant.      

For the current plane set in the arena, I lean towards the J or L.  So that it will be flown, not ignored.  Mostly so that it will have the ability to compete.

Get this memorized, before preflight
         

         


Drone gunnery practice next Tuesday
         

BTW Pyro could you interpret this chart for me.  The distance numbers seem backwards.  My guess is the gun would be placed to the left.  The chart shows projectile drop.

Reference:  http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/More_P-38_Stuff.html

Mino

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[juzz]

Guns on the right. It shows how far in inches, above or below the sight line(boresight?) the bullets are for each range, as per the graphic and the table.

Note:
1. NO horizontal convergence is used.
2. The 20mm has less drop then the .50in out to ~400 yards, but appears to drop more after ~430. I can't figure out why though...

[Minotaur]

Juzz;

Thanks...

Basically the guns are pointed upward a few degrees, so that at 400yds out the projectiles are even with the boresight?

To compensate for drop right?

The tracectory is fairly flat from 200 to 500 yds.

As Promised
         

Notice the "Polished Mirror Surface" on the right engine nacelle.  Used for checking gear down, bombs and tanks released.    

This picture is also my current wallpaper at work.          

Mino

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[Minotaur]

P-38's RAF:  http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38_7.html

P-38's PTO:    http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38_18.html  and    http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/p038-10.html

P-38's ETO:    http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38_17.html  and    http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/p038-09.html

P-38F:    http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38_10.html  and    http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/p038-02.html

P-38G:  http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38_11.html  and    http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/p038-03.html  

P-38J:    http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38_13.html  and    http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/p038-05.html

P-38L:    http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38_15.html  and    http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/p038-07.html

Mino

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[Minotaur]

Cool picture of a radar equiped night fighter version and pictures showing the difference in nacelle air intakes.

Check it out: http://www.fastlane.net/homepages/gchocker/p38.htm

Mino

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