I've got a Parkzone F27 (self-modified A model) plus a Typhoon 3d.
Great fun and tough, the 27's body has a crack almost all the way through and the entire engine assembly is held on with packing tape because of a crash 3 years ago that ripped it and about 6 sq. inches of foam out of the fuselage. I even hit a pole at some 50mph (inverted) with it and only hurt a servo

I've never really got a grip on the Typhoon, but its easy not to crash it. If you start losing control just point it straight up ad apply throttle. The control surfaces exist to keep the motor pointed in the right direction, not to actually fly....
My brother in law flies "real" planes; I know exactly how long one would last with my piloting so haven't tried yet. He is trying to get me slope flying though, we've got some great hills around here.