ACES HOG (take a serious look at this)

[whels1]

 

Originally posted by MANDOBLE:
Take a serious look at the actual status of kills:
HOGC -> 16496 kills (1769 gvs)
Nikki -> 7521 kills (198 gvs)
SpitIX -> 7120 kills (283 gvs)

At half way down:
La7 -> 4476 kills (116 gvs)

Rest of the planes have as minimum 1000 kills less than La7.
For example:
HOG-D -> 3439 kills (203 gvs)
190D9 -> 3140 kills (63 gvs)

Another example related to buffs:
HOGC  -> 2410 buff kills
190D9 ->  586 buff kills

Sincerely, I'm getting bored encountering only Hogs C, nikkis and spits. Dont remember the last time I fought a P51B (for example). IMO, something should be done.

AH is becoming anything but a balanced planeset usage game, is becoming Aces HOG.

Man,
id bet most of the kills Chog get are from
vulching a capped base. i doubt it has more then 1/2 its kills from A2A.

whels

[MANDOBLE]

Toad, your stats or mine stats dont mean anything (at least mine flying mainly 190A5 or A8). Mixing with dozen of CHogs dont mean you'll kill them all or be killed by them. Usualy, before you're able to kill the blue UFO, another blue one has killed him. IMO fighting against Chogs is as boring as fighting with friendly CHogs nearby.

The main and unique objetive of AH MA is to take enemy bases to force reset. Well, this is CHog reign, so, dont expect to find any 190F8 jabos trying to take enemy fields.

About the vulch fests, any plane is good for them. This is the only place where the guns of CHogs are not an advantage. Vulching is anything but an excuse about CHog kills.

Anyway If you read my post, you'll see I'm not talking only about CHog. I'm talking about 3 planes (almost 4) out of more than 20. And, personally, I find more spits IX than Chogs.

[sling322]

blah blah blah....same old song....time to change the record

[AKSeaWulfe]

If it isn't the F4U-1C, it's the SpitIX, if it's isn't the SpitIX, it's the N1K, if it isn't the N1K, it'll be the 190D9, if it isn't the 190D9, it's the P51D/B, if it isn't the P51B/D, it's the Bf109G10, if it isn't the 109G10, they are going to find some other plane to piss n moan about.

Give it a freaking rest already. This won't end until we're all flying Stinson's with a single colt .45, then it still won't end. The Stinson will turn too fast and the Colt .45 will be too easy to aim and get too many head shots.

If this game were about equality all of the planes would have the same damned flight model and would all have the same damned guns and the same damned damage model.

Just STFU already and play.
-SW

[funked]

I'd like to take this opportunity to say:

SPITS RULE WAFFLES DROOL!

[MANDOBLE]

AKSeaWulfe, I hope all of us desire a balanced arena. Or do you prefer to fly CHog and the rest Nikki just because these are the desired rides of the players? You and the nikki pilots will get bored in few days.

I'm not directly talking about getting rid off CHog, Spits or nikkis. I'm warning about the risk of an arena capitalized by a very small amount of plane types, just because they are the best and more than enough to cover any kind of mission here (even better than buffs).

And finally, some people here are talking about the disaster of WWIIOL having only 109, 110 and Spit (3 planes). Well, where is the diference with AH?

[funked]

I agree with Mandoble.  I'd like to see Fd-Ski's "Rolling Perk" system.  This would give us some realy variety in matchups, and the oneplanejohnwaynegottawins could still get their uberjollies by EARNING a ride.

[AKSeaWulfe]

I will give you one thing Mandoble, you spew crap like a 2$ potato.

Try looking up my stats smart guy, there's not a Chog or N1K2 sortie on the list. Oh but wait.. I do have 190D9 and 190A5 stats... Ouch!
-SW

[Ripsnort]

Well,Mandoble, considering you fly the Dora, G10 and A5 alot, yep, just another Chog whine.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Would runing naked around the runway would earn me a P47-D30?

All the work made by HTC implementing new planes is of little value (perhaps only marketing), actually, only three plane types are satisfying more than 60% of players. AH will not be a "rich" game even with 100 plane types more. ... clever thougth  

I have a question, call me stupid but:
If the F4-C is to the F4-D, what the P51-H is to the P51-D, then the P51H will be not perked?  

[Sturm]

Mandoble, firs thing I say when I enter enemy terr, it is like invading britain, all I see are spits.  I would say minus buffs and my kills against prove it the top 3 are the Chog, Spit IX, and N1k, PT boat doesn't count here.  

F4U-1C 130 76
PT Boat 56 68
N1K2 24 59
Spitfire Mk IX 32 43

I have not flown the F4U in over a week, and I wont fly it.  I did fly the N1k twice last night and got 10 kills in 2 missions.  Diversity is one thing with ease at what they achieve is another.  I don't knock what others fly they are paying they can do whatever they want.  get rid of one plane the same croud will take the next best thing anyway.  Can't be stopped just got to get used to it.  


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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?"  Famous quote from Animal House, John Belushi.

[Apache]

 

get rid of one plane the same croud will take the next best thing anyway. Can't be stopped just got to get used to it.

Yep, you're right on track. Been saying that for years now.

[Ripsnort]

Well, when you're ground pounding, nothing beats the OSTIES and Tanks back nor strafes like a chog.  If A/C are trying to up, too bad..Chog is my number one ride for ATG sorties. End of story.  

[Sturm]

Rip doesn't it et boring being able to unload 20mm missles at will?  What gives you more satisfacion killing 8 planes in a Chog, or killing 8 in a 205?  I speak for myself only I prefer the LW planes and always will.  But I do fly almost every plane in the game.  And I will continue to do that.  What challenge is it to fly a plane that carries 900 rounds of 20mm N1k included.  

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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?"  Famous quote from Animal House, John Belushi.

[Ripsnort]

Well, as former CO of JG2 (with 55 members flying under me), my best K/D ratio of all A/C is still in the FW190A8, and P51D.  Its the environment (main arena mentality) that makes the hog a killer.  ie. you got a nice furball going until some guy comes barreling thru with a Chog...I can do the same damage in a 190A8..its just that the A8 don't carry 8 rockets and 2k of bombs, and thats the REAL reason I'm here, to kill your airbase.  

[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 04-20-2001).]