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Offline StSanta

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N1K faster than G2?
« on: April 23, 2001, 11:33:00 PM »
Last night, I dove down on a N1K in my 109G2 with gondolas. Initially, I made good progress and distance dropped from d2.4 to about d500. We were doing about 350 at the time IIRC.

And then the N1K started to pull away. I only turned film on when this happened though.

Is the N1K faster than the g2?

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2001, 11:51:00 PM »
on the deck, if both have wep, yes

if g2 has no gondolas then its faster

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2001, 12:22:00 AM »
i dont get it, i fly the 109 g10, sometimes with gondolas, and i can remember several insances where i found myself diveing from a hi alt to run from the n1k2, and what happens, n1k2 catches me, hemm.... n1k2, radial engein, not stremline, 109g10 in-line stremline. or has that been fixed?

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2001, 12:29:00 AM »
the me109 is actually a VERY poor aerodynamic design

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2001, 01:26:00 AM »
Yes, the Niki is faster than a G-2 (and C.205) at low-medium altitudes. I'd say up to 16-18K.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2001, 02:35:00 AM »
I fly G2 with gondolas and find the nikki slower in a level run, except at very lo alt, where it seems to be even faster than 190A8.

Anyway, while being slower at med-hi alts, if the nikki reach its top speed and zooms into vertical, you have no chance to catch it with G2. The inverse is also true, if you, while being faster, zoom in vertical with a nikki at 6, he'll get you for sure.

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2001, 03:51:00 AM »
Guys, the fact that one aircraft has a radial engine, whilst the other has an inline does not necessarily mean that the latter is more aerodynamically 'clean' than the former.

In my younger years I used to hang around ships a lot.

Big ships.  

REALLY big ships!

Ever seen a supertanker?  Bloody big bulbous nose on those suckers which you would think would cause enormous drag, just like a radial engine.

But you know what, it's actually a very low-drag design!  That bulbous nose (and the radial nose) displaces the water or air in front of it, creating a region of lower pressure on the trailing hull or fuselage.

Ever seen some of the designs for 'supercavitating' vessels?  Blunt nose, yet are theorised to be able to travel supersonic under the water!

Nice pointy inline engine causes the whole fuselage to generate skin drag ... bulbous radial nose partially eliminates that drag.

Funked, wells, where are those aerodynamic experts when I need 'em  

Oh, the Nik still dives too well and retains the E from that dive unbelievably well    I've been run down at 550 mph by a Nik coming off a dive.  Never even knew the sucker would hold together at that speed!

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2001, 05:18:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by MANDOBLE: I fly G2 with gondolas and find the nikki slower in a level run, except at very lo alt, where it seems to be even faster than 190A8

Every good Niki driver will eat alive your G-2 cannon-ship up to (say) 16K. We are lucky that most of them usually travel at medium speed thinking they can do everything (and they usually are right  )
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2001, 05:19:00 AM »
Since the webpage charts are wrong...

N1K2-J speeds, 100% fuel + 800rnds ammo.

s/l: 339mph
8k: 355mph
10k: 352mph
19k: 373mph
25k: 349mph
30k: 332mph

N1K2-J climbrate, 100% fuel + 800rnds ammo.

0k: 3750fpm
4k: 3850fpm
9k: 3200fpm
16k: 3050fpm
25k: 1600fpm
30k: 800fpm

The N1K2-J is VERY similar in size and (loaded)weight to the Fw 190A-5, except that it has 28% more wing area, and 14% more power.

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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2001, 07:55:00 AM »
given the fact that 99.9% of all aircraft design is about compromises the n1k2j defies this in every aspect.

it is faster than a p38.
carries more 20mm ammo than the f4u1c
out turns the spit9
outdives the p47
climbs with 109s
goes vertical like a 190a5
sustains considerable battle damage
conserves energy better than all other aircraft
has better range than the P-51 (ie. dweebs fly it at 25% fuel)


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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2001, 08:53:00 AM »
 
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goes vertical like a 190a5
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Like 190A5 with RATOs.

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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2001, 02:06:00 PM »
One of these days you'll be able to feel it when those dadgum butterfly flaps pop out on the N1K2.

Just cause they were automatic doesn't mean they can defy the properties of lift and drag  

Anyone notice it's aerodynamic surface (minus the alierons) are very simular to the A6M5? The N1K1-Ja looks to of had a A6M3's tail grafted onto the airframe, and the N1K2-J used the same horizontal stabilizers/elevators

 


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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2001, 02:22:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
the me109 is actually a VERY poor aerodynamic design

Not true!

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2001, 02:49:00 PM »
Sorry but it is true  

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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2001, 03:05:00 PM »
 
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it is faster than a p38.

AHEM BULL*COUGH*

 
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out turns the spit9

AAAAAACHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBULL*COUGH*