Drop tanks: unfair advantage?

[funked]

I remember YOU flying that way.  I don't fly that way nor do I create missions with that loadout.

[Zigrat]

my usual load, regardless of plane type, excepting pony, is 75% plus DT.

100% plus dt is too much, since by time got to fight would have burned off some internal fuel anyways  

[Ripsnort]

LOL, now flying with less than a full tank is "Gaming"...I believe I've heard it all now.  

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Bah, I don't see where the problem is, if you fly with very low internal fuel then you have very little time left for fighting, and even may run out of fuel if dogfight runs a bit long.

Gatt, u cracked me up on this one, LOL, great troll.

[Regurge]

My usual ride these days is a 109, 100%/no dt. If I dont find a fight by the time I get to 18k or so I level out and pull the throttle back to cruise at about 300mph true. That last 50mph of airspeed really sucks up the gas but doesnt get you anywhere much faster.

[Lephturn]

I'm confused as to why some of you guys think taking a drop tank and 25% to a close fight is any different that taking 50% internal to the same fight?  Other than a bit of flexibility if you get bounced, I see no difference.  Actually, I'll take the internal every time, since my climb performance is better without the tank.  In addition, my Jug performs better if I drain the AUX tank before I fight, so I'm better to take 50% internal and drain the AUX on the way in than I am to punch a drop and arrive at the fight with 25% main and 25% AUX.  I'm sure many other planes are in a similar situation.

All a drop tank allows is a bit more flexibility.  It's no "unfair advantage".  Far from it.  The only advantage being gained here is those who plan well enough to arrive at the fight with just enough gas to engage and make it home.  Or not.  If you think disabling drop tanks unless you have 100% fuel will change that, I think you are fooling yourself.

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mybe code it that ifu choose DTs it loads
100% fuel automaticly.

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Good idea Funked

[Sancho]

Waaa!!!


 

[AKSeaWulfe]

So what's this?

You all have exhausted your complaints on the D9, F4U-1C, Ostwinds and whatever else you all feel like pissing in the wind about so now it's about drop tanks and 100% internal fuel?

Sheit... do you all need testosterone injections or something?
   
When I fly the 205 or La5, I take 100% internal and it doesn't bother me at all that someone might be up with less gas.

Hey guys! Look at that! He's using the 4 gun loadout on the Pony instead of the 6 gun loadout! He's gaming the gun loadout!!!!
   
-SW

[MiG Eater]

The only time that I fly with 25% fuel in the main tanks is when that is all that is available at a bombed out field.  50% or more in a P-51 plus tanks or 100% in all other planes with or without tanks.

I find that I can fly a slightly heavy plane a lot better than one that runs out of fuel in the middle of a dogfight    

MiG

[Toad]

 

Originally posted by funked:
You think any WW2 pilots would intentionally take off with less than full tanks?

Now, now Funk.

You know that many of those who scream for "realism" only want the parts they like or fit their particular definition of "real".  

[funked]

Yeah sorry Toad I forgot.    

The rest of ya:  I define "gaming" as any non-historical tactic which is made useful by non-historical features of a sim.  Gaming the fuel loadouts clearly fits the bill.

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 04-24-2001).]

[Sturm]

 

You think any WW2 pilots would intentionally take off with less than full tanks?

 Ask the japanese or german pilots what they were taking off in at the end of the war, were the allied pilots yelling at them saying hey your gaming this war by only flying with 50% fuel!!!!  I take my time to get to altitude I usually go to the max for the planes highest speed.  cept the 152 feel no need to go to the outer edge of the atmosphere.

Fuel loadout is one thing, but a plane running at full wep trying to chase down my hunstang at 100% fuel well guess who will break off first?  At any rate let them do what they want.    

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[214thCavalier]

If a plane type had DT's as an option it should have them here as well, if not then of course no.
Personally i will take any fuel or weapon and ammo loadouts that i see fit for the mission i undertake.
No choice whatever it is that i make is gaming the game, because they are there as options.
Whats more nobody has any right to try to dictate what fuel or any other of the options i lift with.
Anybody who thinks otherwise i sure as hell hope you NEVER get into any position of authority anywhere.
This attitude of he does'nt fly how i want him too so lets force him into it is getting a little out of hand.
I never even think or worry about what fuel load etc the other plane is carrying, do you think they actually asked each other before combat in WW2 if they had mutually acceptable fuel loads before engaging ?
Thats half the fun entering a fight and analysing if your getting the upper hand or not, then adjusting to hopefully make sure you do.
Now i find myself looking at the post button thinking should i really bother responding to this crap.
Aww to hell with it [Submit reply]

[This message has been edited by 214thCavalier (edited 04-24-2001).]

[Dead Man Flying]

You do have to admire this thread.  Amidst the staleness of F4U-1C whining, gatt has managed to find an entirely new, hitherto untouched thing about which to complain.  

-- Todd/DMF