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Offline frank3

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New to the AvA, how does it work?
« on: June 10, 2009, 05:25:23 AM »
I just noticed this AvA forum, but I don't know much about it. Can anyone elaborate on what's the trick here?
Saw the sticky of people requesting acces to allies or axis, what's up with that?

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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 07:00:18 AM »
Well each week is a senario kinda like FSO and though there are 3 chess pieces we only use 2 of them, you actually have to read the MOTD as you enter the areana. Your aircraft choice will be limited to what was either actually used at that time or something may be substituted as we don't have a complete set of aircraft. As a general rule of thumb if you come upon a 1 on 1 it is always good to ask on country if that person would like help in the fight before just jumping in ah la MA style. This week is primarily setup to showcase the blue planes vs the German stuff... though someone did put a silly spitty in here so there is potential to see a spitfest on the acklies side.
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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 08:27:42 AM »
There's also wednesday night missions run by larry. Also jaeger throws challenges to other squads.there's other events in the works :)
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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 09:02:19 AM »
As a general rule of thumb if you come upon a 1 on 1 it is always good to ask on country if that person would like help in the fight before just jumping in ah la MA style.

Frank,

If you want to fight in uninterrupted 1 versus 1 fights the best place to do that is the dueling arena. HTC conveniently created a terrain full of airfield pairs that are perfect for doing just that. You are under no obligation to ask permission to enter a 1 versus 1 fight in the Axis versus Allies Arena. There are folks who will get upset with you if you interrupt them but it is an imaginary rule.  Just examine the name of the arena:

Axis 9. an alliance of two or more nations to coordinate their foreign and military policies, and to draw in with them a group of dependent or supporting powers.
10.the Axis, (in World War II) Germany, Italy, and Japan, often with Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania.

The word Allies is obviously plural but here is the definition just in case
n. pl. al·lies
1. One that is allied with another, especially by treaty:
2. One in helpful association with another:
3. Allies
a. The nations allied against the Central Powers of Europe during World War I. They were Russia, France, Great Britain, and later many others, including the United States.
b. The nations, primarily Great Britain, France, the Soviet Union, and the United States, allied against the Axis during World War II.

The name of the arena implies teamwork so feel free to pounce on that low and slow anchored fight.

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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 09:09:55 AM »
Thanks for the info guys, it sounds fun!
How many players are there usually in an arena?

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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 09:57:21 AM »
take it from someone who flies AVA all the time, do you have to listen to suggested rules...NO absolutely not. but if you want to be a good guy and make friends, a little courtesy goes a long way.

some people are more courteous then others. some get good 1 v 1 fights. Others, less courteous,  get ganged as soon as they up. its all about attitude. your attitude will make the experience for you.

no set rules, just alot of common courtesy.

almost forgot the best part, no points. you get kills but no points. its all about having fun!
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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 10:28:34 AM »
Numbers of players varies from zero to a couple dozen - sad really, as it can be lots of fun.  Apparently this past weekend, when HTC had server issues and many other arenas were fubar, it was rumored that the AvA had over a hundred people in it.

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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 10:43:43 AM »
actually it maxed out at 200.

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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2009, 05:36:10 AM »
take it from someone who flies AVA all the time, do you have to listen to suggested rules...NO absolutely not. but if you want to be a good guy and make friends, a little courtesy goes a long way.

some people are more courteous then others. some get good 1 v 1 fights. Others, less courteous,  get ganged as soon as they up. its all about attitude. your attitude will make the experience for you.

no set rules, just alot of common courtesy.

almost forgot the best part, no points. you get kills but no points. its all about having fun!

So you are saying that the "friendly and courteous" AvA regulars are only courteous if they perceive that you are obeying their imaginary rules. Otherwise, all bets are off and those who do not fall into the "pretty please may I fight" mold will be mercilessly hunted by packs of roving "friendly and courteous" AvA regulars? Did I get that straight?

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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2009, 06:52:49 AM »
No Dawger, if we see you we will hunt you down and gang you till you leave for making such intelligent posts...
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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2009, 12:09:53 PM »
Dawger, that pot is empty, quit stirring it.

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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2009, 02:30:50 PM »
Hello Frank
The AvA is a place to hone your skills amd make new friends. You'll fly next to people that have shot you down in the MA or you have shot down in the MA. You typically do not have to worry about an inbound con hoing you as that is self policed most of the time. The arena is all about the fight. You'll probably find yourslef on the deck knife fighting somebody and win or lose you will have more confidence that you can carry into the MA. You'll look at the planeset in a different way too. You'll see what a 109 G2 or a P38G can really do and so on,
You do tend to see the odd person with a lot of alt but they end up coming down and fighting as nobody can be bothered flying to 20k for a series of passes that ends after a short while.  So in conclusion you will make new friends, learn new skills and have a lot fun. Based on that premise alone the AvA is worth it's weight in gold.
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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2009, 10:52:06 PM »
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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2009, 11:43:10 PM »
You know what...  I spent a few hours in the AvA a couple weeks ago.  My squad decided to accept an invitiation to participate in an AvA mission.  You AvA guys are fooling yourselves about some mysterious honor system.  My AvA experience included the same gangings and HOs that I expect in the MA.  We went into the AvA hoping for something different, personally I only found more of the same.  Just on a smaller scale.

More power to you AvA guys, hope you continue to enjoy yourselves there.  Unless things change, I won't be back there.  I can find the same type of fights in the Main Arena.  Honestly, you really should consider not trying to advertise your Arena as "The Honorable Place to Find the Perfect Fight that isn't a Gangfest or HO festival'.  You simply aren't what you're pushing, in my opinion.  You would be better served by pushing the historical matchups and changing scenarios a little more, that's really the only thing that distinguishes you from the MA.  Those of us who have visited the AvA arena hoping for a better fight just get more disappointed by the same old dweebery and don't really want to try again.

Just my opinion, use it to help yourselves...  Or not...  Your choice...

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Re: New to the AvA, how does it work?
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2009, 11:45:17 PM »
Frank its very simple. If you come into the AvA and want to be accepted with open arms its best to keep the MA tactics in the MA. Just come in and treat people that are fighting the way you would like to be treated. Don't come in like some people HOing or vulching and expect that 'AvA regulars' are just going to sit back and take it because they wont. Think of it as going into someones home for the first time. Do you just walk in without knocking, sit down, kick your muddy boots up on the table, and demand a beer? Or do you treat those people and their house with respect? Because that's what the AvA is for some of us, a home. For some its the ONLY arena they play in because people respect others fights. We've shaped the so that skill level really does matter. Not who has the most alt in their hotrod plane. Only in the AvA have I seen SBDs out fly A6M or 190A5 down on the deck knife fighting a Hurri. Not because they got caught low and couldn't run away, but because they wanted a challenge. As I said come in and treat other peoples fights with respect and You'll want to come back for more.



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