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Offline crazyivan

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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 07:24:30 PM »
Drifting + Jeep = Rollover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH3sQ7X2V8E

Mr Block is quite the driver. I'd love to have that Subaru.
i've drifted in 2nd gear. but yeah she step out in the rain.

Ahh Rally racing now those guys a Crazy. but I like drifting too. Travis Pastrana  always wrecks his pretty Subaru. :D
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 08:14:26 PM »
Nothing like getting the tail out there to wind around a corner in something with a high COG, did that a few times. Love watching the dakkar rally though. Will it be cancelled this year? I have no problems with people who off-road even on a quad. They are fellow off-roaders to me. I'd pull any of them out of a ditch or lend tools if they needed them. It's the stop light, parade float, fart can muffler having ricers i'd love to climb right over at the intersection. Wow, the look on some face pierced little street punk kid as the back window pops while the bfg mud terrains eat the glitter paint job from tail to nose. I can dream can't I? There was a saran wrap incident I got into but i'm feeling much better now.
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 09:29:36 PM »
Jeep Drifting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9il-ni-Bkbc&feature=related

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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 09:52:15 PM »
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2009, 11:05:46 AM »
Again with the Jeep  :lol  I love Jeeps too, but Subarus and Jeeps are two completely different worlds.  Trying to run a WRC course in a Jeep would end in disaster and embarrassment.  About as quickly as it would if you tried to rock crawl with a Subaru WRX.

Both awsome vehicles, but purpose-built.


Rally Cars = single purpose built

Jeeps (especially older ones)   = multi purpose.  hence the original GP (General Purpose) moniker for the military which phonetically wound up as (you guessed it)............ Jeep

Your analogy stymies me.  You are telling me that a Jeep could not make it through a WRC course?  Perhaps not at rally car speed , but nonetheless, it could cross the finish line.  Not nearly as embarrassing as it would be trying to crawl, ford, or climb any terrain that would require an off-road vehicle with any clearance in a Subaru.

Besides, where would you mount a winch on a Subaru?    :D

(Also, the Subaru would look silly without doors)       :devil

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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2009, 12:23:07 PM »


Can't do this in a rally car so neener :D
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2009, 02:17:33 PM »
I find it rather funny that Jeepers automatically figure that everyone would WANT to do that in the first place.

I'd rather have my rice burner (and the skill to use it; most important part. Nor just be the retard at the stoplights) on solid pavement or loose gravel any day over dragging myself through a mudpit.
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2009, 02:24:04 PM »
Drifting + Jeep = Rollover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH3sQ7X2V8E

Mr Block is quite the driver. I'd love to have that Subaru.

I was drifting a Grand Cherokee SRT8 on the Road America Course at the last Camp Jeep.   Took the corners at 90 (very good drifting) and hit 140 on the final straight.   My buddy was in front of me doing the same thing.   

But on a WRC course, the Jeep is not conducive and needs no explanation. 
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2009, 02:26:15 PM »
Audi  is better for rally race

Um, please.   The Kiddie pool is over there. ------->
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2009, 02:35:23 PM »
I was drifting a Grand Cherokee SRT8 on the Road America Course at the last Camp Jeep.   Took the corners at 90 (very good drifting) and hit 140 on the final straight.   My buddy was in front of me doing the same thing.   

But on a WRC course, the Jeep is not conducive and needs no explanation. 
Just curious.. Stock suspension setup?  Tires?  Asphalt conditions?
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2009, 02:41:07 PM »
I find it rather funny that Jeepers automatically figure that everyone would WANT to do that in the first place.

I'd rather have my rice burner (and the skill to use it; most important part. Nor just be the retard at the stoplights) on solid pavement or loose gravel any day over dragging myself through a mudpit.

4WD does not = automatic skill.  Ask the many folks with a "4x4" that I've yanked out of snowbanks around here in the winter, or out of a mud pit in the NJ pine barrens.

The jeep is for going wherever I want to go, regardless of terrain.  It may not be the fastest means of getting there, but I WILL undoubtedly get there.

If I want to go fast, I use the appropriate tools............ :devil



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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2009, 02:43:36 PM »
I find it rather funny that Jeepers automatically figure that everyone would WANT to do that in the first place.

I'd rather have my rice burner (and the skill to use it; most important part. Nor just be the retard at the stoplights) on solid pavement or loose gravel any day over dragging myself through a mudpit.

I went to the MacNeil Rally School in NH back in 96.   Never lost the skills and having them now matters not if I'm off road in my 95 Grand Cherokee or in the wife's Sable or my Milan.   It's also the reason I want a Mustang GT next year and the wife is cringing at the thought, although my 7 year old son has vetoed her.   My 83 CJ7 would take most cars off the light and maxed at 70mph.   It had front and rear Detroit Lockers with 4.27 gears, was lifted with 33" BFGoodrich Mud Terrains and a 1972 304.   I traded it for my 95 ZJ and miss it every day.

Unfortunately, most people associate "jeepers" as "a bunch of rednecks who tear through the trails while throwing beer cans out of the window."    It's a shame that it is true, as I've heard it too many times to count and represents the 1% of the wheeling Community that is despised by the majority of us.  

I've never been a fan of AWD.    It's either 2wd or 4wd, no in-betweens with me.   I'm the one passing people on snowy roads, while they're doing grossly exaggerated slow speeds.   I know my abilities and limitations, what to do, what not to do, etc.   Obviously, as I get older and the skills deteriorate, so will this.  
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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2009, 02:46:52 PM »
Just curious.. Stock suspension setup?  Tires?  Asphalt conditions?

Stock SRT8 (20" wheel model) and Asphalt.   But it was not easy to drift, by any stretch of the means.   My wife was in the back seat and a Volunteer was in "shotgun".   He was almost pissing himself laughing as I was doing it.   My wife was rolling her eyes and unimpressed.   

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Re: Ken Block and the beauty of all wheel drive....
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2009, 02:49:06 PM »
Stock SRT8 (20" wheel model) and Asphalt.   But it was not easy to drift, by any stretch of the means.   My wife was in the back seat and a Volunteer was in "shotgun".   He was almost pissing himself laughing as I was doing it.   My wife was rolling her eyes and unimpressed.   



Your wife and my wife must know each other  :rofl
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