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Offline MANDOBLE

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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2001, 04:59:00 PM »
Funked, the violent drop of the wing in any 190 with almost no prior warning (any speed) is actually present. The easy way to recover is also present. Both facts are well known by you, so I cant understand your problem with 190 series.

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« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2001, 09:47:00 AM »
Ahem, Ammo in BoB Spit had one weakness against the 109 series which was vital to LW jagdflieger men . Neg G diving that's how most LW airmen in 109s survived or evaded attacks by Spits,which they couldn't follow.

I stand corrected on later versions, but the MKv in AH I am positive had the engine stall under Neg Gs.

Oh and the FM BUG of the 190 ,the Typh and the niki should be corrected asap.

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« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2001, 11:41:00 AM »
 
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Ahem, Ammo in BoB Spit had one weakness against the 109 series which was vital to LW jagdflieger men . Neg G diving that's how most LW airmen in 109s survived or evaded attacks by Spits,which they couldn't follow.

I stand corrected on later versions, but the MKv in AH I am positive had the engine stall under Neg Gs.




Now that I will agree with, thx for correcting your statement, as to the FM changes I dont know.

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« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2001, 12:07:00 PM »
Glasses,
Some Spit Vs had the fix and some didn't.  We simply have one with the fix.  For once, HTC didn't model the worst possible Spitfire that they could have for a given version.  We have both the worst Spitfire IX and the worst Seafire possible.

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The Spitfire rolls slightly too slowly at low speed and too fast at high speed in AH.

Funny how this microscope is only being applied to Japanese and British aircraft.  What happens if we turn it on American, German and Russian aircraft?

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« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2001, 12:33:00 PM »
 
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Funny how this microscope is only being applied to Japanese and British aircraft.  What happens if we turn it on American, German and Russian aircraft?


I would gladly like to see the reworking of the FM of the FW's   At any rate you won't hear squeaking about the russian mounts only 3 in game and 1 "La-7" being a latewar version.

US planes well I think they have been discussed rather extensively, 51, F4U, 38, just to name a couple. The 109's have been discussed especially the G-10, the D-9 has been discussed but the argument subsided after its newness wore off.  

I have no problem with the flight models it is just the frequency that you see them in the air.  I would say 80-85% of the aircraft I see now are the top 3 in the air. Spit9, George, F4U-1c.  I don't care if it is historically accurate or not now, but something has to be done, to instill others to fly more then just these 3 planes.  

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« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2001, 01:12:00 PM »
 Really I assume some people might think that I want these FM "BUGS" to be changed due to the fact that it might give us LW fliers some advantage,that might be true but also I want the most realistic online sim possible with  each of the aircraft weaknesses and strengths. As of right now some aircraft have unrealistic advantages and vice versa this should be promptly changed IMO(without mentioning any aircraft in specific).

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« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2001, 01:58:00 PM »
I would like the FM as acurate as possible too, I requested the Tiffie's roll rate and N1K2's e-retention be fixed as the twobiggest bugs that I want fixed in v1.07.   I just think its kind of funny that I've been here for quite awhile and I've never seen the microscope applied to anything other than Japanese and British aircraft.

Yes, it seems that the Fw190 should roll slightly faster, but is that the only problem with its FM?

I happen to prefer British and Japanese aircraft, so I might be a bit defensive on this.

AG Sachsenberg,
We have 4 Russian aircraft, La-5FN, La7, Yak9U and Yak9T.  v1.07 is bringing another Russian aircraft as well, that would make it 5 to Britain's 6.  And if only having 4 mounts in the game makes the Russians resistant (they have the 4th most popular fighter) why doesn't the fact that the Japanese only have 2 aircraft make them resistant to the microscope?

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« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2001, 02:06:00 PM »
Yes fix the Typhoon, then unperk the Tempest. After all, it was a contemporary of the Dora and G10, and historicaly deserves to be unperked.

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« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2001, 02:51:00 PM »
 
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Yes fix the Typhoon, then unperk the Tempest. After all, it was a contemporary of the Dora and G10, and historicaly deserves to be unperked.

Agreed. Then add the Me262, unperked because it was a contemporary of the Tempest and historically deserves to be unperked.

 

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« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2001, 03:53:00 PM »
Well, the 262 is a bit later than the Tempest, and due to the situation of the Luftwaffe, and it's terrible reliability, didn't see as much service.
The big difference though is that the 262 is a jet, and would have an enormous speed advantage over the other fighters at all altitudes. In contrast, the Tempest is a prop plane like the Dora and G10, and has a small speed advatage at low level, and is slower at medium and high alts. The Tempest would fit much better unperked than the 262.
The contemporary of the 262 would be the Meteor III.
As it stands, only 2 prop planes from 1944 seem to be considered for perking, the Tempest and Spit XIV, the 2 RAF fighters from 1944. Can you imagine the wine if the only 2 prop planes perked were the Dora and G10?
I think the Typhoon role rate is deliberately too high as a play balance, because the RAF doesn't have it's proper 1944 planes.

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« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2001, 04:35:00 PM »
 
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I just think its kind of funny that I've been here for quite awhile and I've never seen the microscope applied to anything other than Japanese and British aircraft.

Bah you know better...all the other planes have been under the microscope so long that everyone's bored at looking at them.

Remember when the A5 and P-47 had to be fixed? There's alot of stuff brought up but yet to be acted on...

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« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2001, 06:39:00 AM »
 
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because the RAF doesn't have it's proper 1944 planes

Yet once again, for the tea & crumpet set.

The proper 1944 fighter for the RAF is not the Tempest or the Spit XIV.

The "proper" 1944 fighter for the RAF is a slightly different varient of the Spit IX than we have now.

Campaign for it on that basis, but don't insinuate that the Tempest and Spit XIV were the 1944 mainline or most produced fighters. It just wasn't so.

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« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2001, 01:09:00 PM »
OOOOH Verm nice arguments  

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« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2001, 04:28:00 PM »
Verm, it's true that the Tempest and Spit XIV were not the most produced RAF fighters in 1944.
However, they were both present in significant numbers, certainly compared to the other perk planes we have so far, the Ar234, Ta152, F4U-1C
At this stage, even a proper Spit IX LF would be a big improvement for the RAF, particulary if it was abe to use higher octane fuel, as became common on late Spits.
I say "proper" 1944 planes because AH has a late war planeset. For the Germans, the 19A8 would be far more representitive of a 1944 plane than the Dora, but the Dora is in. The 109G6 would be a more common 1944 plane, but the G10/K4 is in. The RAF is the only country lacking their best mainstream prop fighters from 1944.(unperked)

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« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2001, 09:49:00 PM »
I just love this BS:

420 MPH tiffie with 5k alt sees n1k at d6.0 coming to him. N1k is 1k lower.

HO Merge, no shots fired/

Tiffie flies STRAIGHT and dives to the deck (was running to field to kill m3). Speed is 450 or so MPH and holds it (wep on).

N1k TURNS when d1.2 away from tiffie (both planes going in opposite direction).

N1k is d2.3 and starts CLOSING on the 450 mph tiffie.

Withing a few seconds, n1k is d1.0 from tiffie.


Now, can someone please tell me WTF is up with this crap?