New Cargo Aircraft Ju 290 "Seeadler"

[TheAce]

As I fly the C47 more and more I've come to realize the severely limited carrying capabilities of the C47. We need an aircraft that can carry large amounts of supplies and troops while still defending itself. That's why I propose the Ju 290 "Seeadler", it is nearly twice the size of the C47 and with its armament it can definately hold its own (depending on the gunner).

Crew: 9
Length: 93 ft 11 in (28.64 m)
Wingspan: 137 ft 9 in (42.00 m)
Height: 22 ft 5 in (6.83 m)
Wing area: 2,191 ft² (203 m²)
Empty weight: 72,611 lb (33,005 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 99,141 lb (44,970 kg)
Powerplant: 4× BMW 801G/H 14-cylinder radial engines, 1,700 hp (1,268 kW) each
Performance

Maximum speed: 273 mph (440 km/h)
Range: 3,843 mi (6,150 km)
Service ceiling: 19,680 ft (6,000 m)
Armament

Guns: **2 × 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons in dorsal turrets
1 × 20 mm MG 151/20 in tail
2 × MG 151/20s at waist
1 × MG 151/20 in gondola
2 × 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine guns in gondola
Avionics
FuG 200 Hohentwiel radar

The following link will give you some pretty good pictures of it, it may be a model buts its pretty accurate, but feel free to google it yourself.

http://bancadademodelismo.no.sapo.pt/Ju290.htm

[Tec]

Just give me a Ju 52 and I'm happy.

[AWwrgwy]

Doesn't matter how much any cargo aircraft can carry, the most it will carry is what is required to do things now. 

More troops carried = more troops required to take a base.


wrongway

[Lusche]

The specs TheAce posted are not for a cargo aircraft.

Small hint: FuG 200 Hohentwiel

[Larry]

Me323

[TheAce]

Not necessarily AWwrgwy, think about how many times you have to up in a vehicle with supps to resupp base, its not worth it but someone needs to do it. I don't really care about the troops as much although it would be a nice perk, the armament is another added perk, at least with this aircraft you can defend yourself. With the C47 and gv's if a fighter or tank see's you it's basically a death sentence. This way when you go in by air you can defend yourself. Lusche, thanks for the tip but I've looked at multiple websites and they all say basically the same thing, and I don't recall there was another type besides recon, so could you kindly supply the specs. since I can't seem to find them.

[AWwrgwy]

Not necessarily AWwrgwy, think about how many times you have to up in a vehicle with supps to resupp base, its not worth it but someone needs to do it. I don't really care about the troops as much although it would be a nice perk, the armament is another added perk, at least with this aircraft you can defend yourself. With the C47 and gv's if a fighter or tank see's you it's basically a death sentence. This way when you go in by air you can defend yourself. Lusche, thanks for the tip but I've looked at multiple websites and they all say basically the same thing, and I don't recall there was another type besides recon, so could you kindly supply the specs. since I can't seem to find them.

You have a plane that carries more field supplies then it will take more field supplies to bring stuff back up on a base.  Same as troops.  Doesn't matter how much the plane can carry.


wrongway

[TheAce]

AWwrgwy I still don't think you understand, the reason bigger cargo planes are developed is because some things require bigger jobs, try resupping a major international airport with a Cessna, its gonna take forever. That's why bigger cargo planes are built, just because they can carry more cargo doesn't mean more supps will be required to resupp base, the only way that will happen is if the feild gets bigger. Hitech will see and understand that if they have a sensible mind.

[AWwrgwy]

AWwrgwy I still don't think you understand, the reason bigger cargo planes are developed is because some things require bigger jobs, try resupping a major international airport with a Cessna, its gonna take forever. That's why bigger cargo planes are built, just because they can carry more cargo doesn't mean more supps will be required to resupp base, the only way that will happen is if the feild gets bigger. Hitech will see and understand that if they have a sensible mind.

Question:

If I remember correctly a C-47 loaded with troops could carry 29 combat loaded and ready troops at once. So why do we only get 10 in AH? Just curious since I don't remember the numbers from any other sim where capture was involved in the gameplay.

To those that think this is the beginning of some "attempt" to gain more "realism" it is not. I just wanted to ask the question.

Thanks!

Reply:

If We set it for 29 troops we would also change capture to require 29 troops, do you realy wish to have to drop that many?

HiTech

By this precedent we can extrapolate that if one field supply takes 15 minutes off resupply time and our current method of resupply delivers one and only one field supply at a time by introducing a vehicle that carries more than one field supply at a time, the resultant number of supplies required to remove 15 minutes from the regeneration timer would be proportionally greater as well.

If the developers wanted the C-47 or an M-3 to carry more than one field supply they would make it so.  there is no reason not to.

Introduce any cargo carrier you want.  It will more than likely still only be able to drop one field supply, or ten troops, no matter how big it is.

Do I get it now?


wrongway

[TheAce]

Wow, well you did good in proving me wrong, and you proved the stupidity of the HiTech staff, they clearly don't understand the concept of getting more supplies to a specific location faster. They clearly don't understand anything....explains a lot for the some of the crappy gameplay, HA. Everytime I see an answer from one of these people its always defensive and we're not trying to mimic it but simulate it," both those things go hand in hand in my opinion."

[Pannono]

Lol he calls HiTech and his staff stupid and expects them to add a plane for him. 

[TheAce]

Yea...well, it's worth a shot, besides I have been looking at this thread for a while and almost nothing in here gets added, so whats the point anyway? Btw, just felt like getting it out there.

[Larry]

They made this forum so people like you don't flood the main boards.


There are many things that have been added over the years that where asked for. Biggest and lasted example is the Buffalo.

[macleod01]

Wow, well you did good in proving me wrong, and you proved the stupidity of the HiTech staff, they clearly don't understand the concept of getting more supplies to a specific location faster. They clearly don't understand anything....explains a lot for the some of the crappy gameplay, HA. Everytime I see an answer from one of these people its always defensive and we're not trying to mimic it but simulate it," both those things go hand in hand in my opinion."

'We're all going on a summer Holiday!' 

Hitech has himself commented that it is not a simulation, it is a game (Correct me if this quote is wrong one of you older vets). By this he means that it is about having fun, and it will always stay that way. He tries to make things as realistic as possible, but if it intrudes on the fun aspect, he'll leave it out. This applies to supplies. Yes it may be more realistic to have more supplies in a bigger cargo plane (ME323 Gigant for example) but that takes the fun out of supply runs.

Plus I dont care where your from, if a B17 is an easy target atm, then a larger cargo plane, even if it is armed and 'dangerous', is nothing more than a bigger target. 

[slimmer]