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Offline Motherland

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Re: quite a story
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2009, 03:27:55 PM »
I'll ask you what the military tactics were in the Revolutionary War?  What point of his are you disputing?
I think the second part of his post was directed at hornet, at least that's how I took it.

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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2009, 03:38:35 PM »
I'll ask you what the military tactics were in the Revolutionary War?  What point of his are you disputing?


Revolutionary War, the British believed it to be "honorable" to line up in nice tight rows in front of each other and shoot for three or four hours, whoever was left standing won.

Americans, the savages we were, decided that standing behind walls and trees that stopped those pesky bullets, and shooting at the nicely lined up European ranks.... (then run when they got too close), was more our style.  This is true small unit guerrilla warfare, versus a larger, more powerful/  less mobile enemy.   

As far as his history, maybe it is you that should study.  This style of war fighting has been around since B.C. 


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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2009, 05:35:47 PM »
I'll ask you what the military tactics were in the Revolutionary War?  What point of his are you disputing?


Revolutionary War, the British believed it to be "honorable" to line up in nice tight rows in front of each other and shoot for three or four hours, whoever was left standing won.

Americans, the savages we were, decided that standing behind walls and trees that stopped those pesky bullets, and shooting at the nicely lined up European ranks.... (then run when they got too close), was more our style.  This is true small unit guerrilla warfare, versus a larger, more powerful/  less mobile enemy.   

As far as his history, maybe it is you that should study.  This style of war fighting has been around since B.C. 

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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2009, 05:52:46 PM »
Haven't seen a post declaring that the Revolutionary War WASN'T guerrilla warfare other than "Hurr durr, you're stoopid."

I happen to agree with MORAY. Though it doesn't matter much as this will probably be locked. Or at least moved to where it belongs.
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2009, 05:58:58 PM »
I'll ask you what the military tactics were in the Revolutionary War?  What point of his are you disputing?


Revolutionary War, the British believed it to be "honorable" to line up in nice tight rows in front of each other and shoot for three or four hours, whoever was left standing won.

Americans, the savages we were, decided that standing behind walls and trees that stopped those pesky bullets, and shooting at the nicely lined up European ranks.... (then run when they got too close), was more our style.  This is true small unit guerrilla warfare, versus a larger, more powerful/  less mobile enemy.   

As far as his history, maybe it is you that should study.  This style of war fighting has been around since B.C. 


I'll stack my history background up against most folks :)

That being said, you clearly misunderstood my comment in response to the CAPs comment in Hornet's post.  I agree with what you are saying, which is my point.  Wars have fought down and dirty in forever, which is what you are saying.  To suggest that somehow wars were more honorable in another time is just silly.  Nothing honorable about 250,000 casualties at the Somme because the generals tried to fight machine guns in an 'honorable' way by sending their troops walking nicely into the guns.  Nothing honorable about Guernica, London, Berlin, Dresden, Tokyo etc. Talk to any of the guys at Normandy, Iwo or you name it and there is nothing honorable going on.

War is a savage business no matter how nicely you try and dress it up.  We tend to forget it after a while and have to learn it all over again sad to say.
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Offline Karnak

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Re: quite a story
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2009, 06:02:24 PM »
The "honorable" war hornet so praises involved the mass slaughter of civilians on a scale never seen before, a slaughter done by German, Japanese, Russian, British and American forces. Many heinious things have been done in the past, are done now and willl be done in the future.  They are not OK, but the "golden age" reward looking crap is just that, crap.  What happened in the past does not excuse what happens now and what happens now does not excuse what happened in the past.

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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2009, 06:04:11 PM »
Hurr Dhurr, I can't read. :lol

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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2009, 10:48:18 PM »
The "honorable" war hornet so praises also included the Holocost, Hiroshima and Nagasaki among others.  An honorable time indeed.   :confused:
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2009, 10:36:24 PM »
Kids, this is what humping manatee's will do to your brain. 

Exactly what is that, masher?  The ability to think and reason effectively?  Are you required, at this point, to post a reply after every one of mine at this point?  The past ten threads, there you are, attempting some sort of repartee.  You're starting to try too hard, and going back to old material. Give it a rest, it's old.  It was amusing, the first few threads, but you can't keep up.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2009, 10:40:04 PM »
Exactly what is that, masher?  The ability to think and reason effectively?  Are you required, at this point, to post a reply after every one of mine at this point?  The past ten threads, there you are, attempting some sort of repartee.  You're starting to try too hard, and going back to old material. Give it a rest, it's old.  It was amusing, the first few threads, but you can't keep up.

It's not my fault you misunderstood CAP1's post, that fact rests on yourself.   That was the first time I typed it on this Forum.   :rock
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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2009, 10:55:15 PM »
Great story, ruined by the last paragraph.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2009, 10:58:03 PM »
It's not my fault you misunderstood CAP1's post, that fact rests on yourself.   That was the first time I typed it on this Forum.   :rock

Apparently I did, since he had directly quoted the previous poster.
 
At no point did he say "no, I mean the idiot that posted the crap at the bottom".  I admit I simply thought he disagreed with guerrilla warfare being around for thousands of years, which is what the quote was in reference to.  

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Re: quite a story
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2009, 03:34:46 PM »

War is a savage business no matter how nicely you try and dress it up.  We tend to forget it after a while and have to learn it all over again sad to say.

Theres a very good quote from a song I like by a band called Runrig. It simply says 'The answers in teh History books are slowly burning down'

I find that theres many ways of reading those words, and none of them make you feel happy about it because its so true.  :(

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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2009, 03:52:21 PM »
Haven't seen a post declaring that the Revolutionary War WASN'T guerrilla warfare other than "Hurr durr, you're stoopid."

I happen to agree with MORAY. Though it doesn't matter much as this will probably be locked. Or at least moved to where it belongs.

The Revolutionary War WASN'T guerilla warfare.  In fact, I'll bet you can't name one battle that was won by the guerilla tactics you speak of.

In fact, it's pretty hard to find many battles that WERE won by the Americans.  Two, however, were critical, Saratoga and Yorktown.  Both were fought conventionally by conventional forces on both sides.

The clever-colonists-hiding-behind-trees thing is a myth, perhaps based on the retreat of the British from Concord on 4/19/75, but otherwise completely false.

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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2009, 03:55:02 PM »
The Revolutionary War WASN'T guerilla warfare.  In fact, I'll bet you can't name one battle that was won by the guerilla tactics you speak of.
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I would consider the attack on Trenton, kind of a guerrila attack.