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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2009, 02:38:11 PM »
The 7 year unanswered wish list.....  a few of them anyway. Not enough to call a few, my mistake  :noid  We don't get many answers to some of the common complaints but since Fugitive seems to be answering how he thinks  HTC might, ....I'll just respond directly to him and I'll let you read it.

The F6 to go as fast as it's supposed too... Prove it. HTC uses the data they have though a bunch of research they do. Just having some scrap of paper with a number on it isn't going to change their minds. Also, whats an extra 20-25 mph going to do for you? What would and extra 25mph do for you when needed most. There have been multiple tests and posts on the subject that have already proven the F6 to be slower here than it actually was. The F6 has been a topic of debate for many years 

The Game clock to resemble any real American time (eastern, CNT, PAC, MNT)wouldn't work for two reason I can think of... whos time zone are they going to use? this game is played all around the world, wouldn't want to offend the customers. Second if they did lock it to real time...using Dallas as the match that means the euro people would ALWAYS be fling in the dark.... sounds fun to me. THIS ONE I FULLY UNDERSTAND NOW  :rolleyes:. The game clock represents where the sun is....it has nothing to do with saving the feelings of some other country Fugitive.

The text buffer to remember what channels you use instead of erase them once you enter and exit the lobby Don't know what you mean here, I havn't changed my radio settings in years, 1 is 138, 2 is country, 3 is local, 4 is 200, and 5 is 138 vox. Maybe this is only a problem for some of us. I for one can not enter the lobby without having all my channels set back to the default and previous posts over the last couple of years say's I'm not the only one.


Zoom settings to remember like our standard set plane views already do ....I don't use zoom much except in GVs, but this might be a good idea for those who do. ZOOM has never remembered on any of my computers as far back as i can remember and has always been a complaint

Proper dawn/dusk colors like in AH1 instead of this muddy overcast look. Sunsets used to be so nice in AH1. Cryya they were pretty, but I'm sure the guys with the low end computer really hated them. I don't ever remember the angle or color of the sun ever affecting my frame rate. This is not such a big deal but would be nice to see again as stated in previous posts

Three uncapturable bases in TT & FT ( place the red square on them)Never going to happen, tho I wish it would. There is too much trouble between the win the war types and the people who just want instant fight and couldn't care less about the war. So your saying that if there was ONE EXTRA Uncapturable Base Added To Each Country People would complain? I think you have it backwards. Over the years more people have complained about not being able to fight in FT (or TT especially) because of griefers who  enjoy taking from them and dening them that particular area of enjoyment which was afforded to us by HTC and the maker of the map.


Squelch on/off choices for range....this is another one I doubt we will ever see. I'm thinking its about the same as the "perminate squelch" wish. HTC doesn't want people isolated....even if they are annoying little squeekers Big Grin...You missed the point again. There are many squads that once get close enough to target have to compete with the guys on Range while trying to get their information out. The same can be said of wingman pairs. Having the choice of squelching Range has nothing to do with isolating people or hurting their feelings. I'm about to be permanently isolated from these boards for making this post, why don't you help me ,   :eek:   :frown:


Rockets to fire first and bombs second when you cycle through your ord..no big deal but there it is.So little a deal that it gets forgotten each update I'll bet Never knew it was even considered but again, no big deal

Auto boot of tower sitters after 45 min to 1 hour Won't happen again, because it would alienate the customers....     AH has never had this that I can remember so I don't know why your saying "won't happen again"

HTC's customers are being treated unfairly IMO since they allow people to game the game by switching to another country to increase someone elses ENY while they sleep for the night. It also affects Arena Caps that does deny paying customers entrance to a certain arena because some guy fell asleep, wants to save himself a spot for when he gets home from work, store, dinner, mowing the lawn ect. ect.  A 1hr non attended boot should be expected ......and who would complain really?. This is a complaint as old as ENY and the Arena Caps themselves


Hills and trees to be impenetrable by tank rounds when hiding behind them. never seen this happen, but I know that shells can be lobed OVER hills and such.I am one of the many who have been killed while sitting deep in the woods trying to hide. I am also one of many who can shoot through the tops of hills and score a kill even when i can't see the enemy anymore.

To be able to land safely when firmly planted in the yellow arrow of tank spawns instead of getting capture, ditch or crash most of the time.....never land a GV in the field, I always die  Big Grin If no one is around and your firmly planted in the yellow arrow you should get a successful landing mesg as intended . Really not a huge deal but has always been a question of complaint

Increase ammo hardness as it is a bunker ya know. Radar, troops and fuel are all out in the open and should only take 1 to 2 rockets to kill but not the ord. playability issue, the game should be fun and challenging, not more difficult and frustrating If this was implemented it woould definitely make things tough on me. I'm killing ord every time I log on. One F6 can kill four of them with no problem at a medium field and at the small ones it's not even a challenge

Red outs when your burning to simulate heat. If I'm on fire I'm panicing and should not be able to continue fighting as normal.This would be one of HTC favorites. What he would say is.... "What your really asking for is the plane that catches fire become no longer a treat and the kill be award to you who started the fire"  Big Grin Technically if your plane is on fire you should take the initiative and bail immediately. Not that the other guy is going to do it so you loose a kill and possibly get killed waiting for his plane to explode. I'm saying a burning plane would  absolutely be less of a threat as it should be. A zeke for instance should not be able to fly around without some sort of obstacle in the way preventing it from making kills like nothing was wrong with it. IT"S ON FIRE! For this game a red out could be used 6-8 seconds after you've been set on fire. The coding of that may or may not be tough to do and possibly the reason it's not here yet. It's an old complaint but we still enjoy the game


BTW, These are not only my complaints or wishes I have posted.  I have not posted this without reading or hearing of them first either in game or on the board. This Thread is not about me and what I WANT, It's about what I see the community asking for without response. With HTC being the Boss I'm not sure they even owe us one.... but I do know they give us a place to ask for and complain about them without restriction.



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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2009, 03:13:20 PM »
What exactly was the difference with AH1's dusk and dawn?
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2009, 04:35:05 PM »
What exactly was the difference with AH1's dusk and dawn?

It's as simple as East and West..... :devil

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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2009, 04:45:17 PM »
Tool, I don't know if you understand this, or you just want to be argumentative. Do you remember "donut"? it was the map that had the FT in the middle. It was alway being hit by the win the war type because they believed it took resources (players) away from the war. They complained about FT and got no where so they bombed it every chance they got, Furballers complained about it and got nowhere as well. HTC solved the problem....no more donut map.

The sun is in the east when the game clock shows morning, strait above at noon, and in the west in the evening. The game clock works fine. Tying that clock to real time would be stupid. As said in my example if it was tied to Dallas time. prime time for Euro would ALWAYS be in the middle of the night in game time. It would always be "dusk" when I log on. No variaty, pisses off the customers. Again, IT'S A BUSINESS! you don't want to piss off the customers.

When I said "again" I put the comma in the wrong place. I didn't mean that it had happened before, I meant that , again, it would alienate the customer. WHen AW was on AOHell, it was tough to get into arenas due to the technology at the time limiting the number of people in an arena. Many people use to sit in the tower to save their spot. AOHell built in a boot timer, so geeks built programs to simulate activity. I'm sure HTC doesn't want to open that door again. Even so if your sitting in the town chewing out some newb for HOing you and you get booted because of the timer you'll be one of the first to be in here crying to get it changed.

You fly the F6 of course you want more speed, I fly the 38 I want to not have so many pilot wounds. The game is designed and modeled around the information HTC believes is the most accurate. I can live with that, can you?

To you this is an important pass time, and you need it tweaked to increase YOUR enjoyment. HTC on the other hand is a business and as long as people keep paying the monthly fees HTC is going to keep goin along as he always has. He has lead his company pretty well so far. If you don't like the game, maybe its time for you to move onto something new.

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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2009, 05:27:48 PM »

The text buffer to remember what channels you use instead of erase them once you enter and exit the lobby  This happens to me ONLY when I type in the lobby. If i type, for example, .sr to see what arena my squadies are in, when i go into the arena, my channels are reset. Try it

Three uncapturable bases in TT & FT ( place the red square on them) Personally I don't tank in tank town anymore. I used to before the update with the sherman, and I liked it the way it was back then. I won't go there now.

Squelch on/off choices for range Sometimes it does get way to chatty on range and when you are trying to talk to people on vox, it gets anoying. So I personally think it should be an option.

Auto boot of tower sitters after 45 min to 1 hour My thought on this was to not boot people out, but to mark them as AFK so that people wouldnt be talking to them. When they get back and move the mouse, unmark them as AFK

Hills and trees to be impenetrable by tank rounds when hiding behind them This hasn't happened to me. I think A tree should NOT be able to stop a tank or an AP round, especially not the leaves on a tree. And for a bush to stop a tank or a round is just dumb...

To be able to land safely when firmly planted in the yellow arrow of tank spawns instead of getting capture, ditch or crash most of the time. I dont' know about tanks, but when your plane is a few yards off of the runway, it should be considered landed succefuly, not a ditch. IMO

Red outs when your burning to simulate heat. If I'm on fire I'm panicing and should not be able to continue fighting as normal. I agree that if your plane is on fire, you should have some sort of restricction.



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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2009, 08:18:14 PM »
What exactly was the difference with AH1's dusk and dawn?

AHI's dusk and dawn had a mottled red sky which also reflected off the bottoms of the clouds and the shadows through the valleys really added to the effect.  Imagine a multi-shaded red and white streaked sky with ahadows in appropriate places.  It really was quite pretty.
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2009, 12:49:10 AM »
I don't remember that... And they've removed the AH1 screenshots from the homepage.
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2009, 01:26:51 AM »
It looked something like this. I'm to tired to make a screen shot of it now but you can recreate it in offline mode fairly easy. Change the time to around 6:00 and sun/cloud colors too..???? ... you'll have to mess with it.

Anyway, It would only last's for about 8-10 min twice an AH day. The glow off the planes, cockpit's, mountains, sky and cv's was truly nice to see. Was my favorite time of day and a very classy touch by the old CM crew.





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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2009, 01:29:30 AM »
Double post..


When H2H was around I'd make plenty of maps. Almost all of them that I hosted featured this time of day with plenty of mountains and pointy peaks to fly in and around.

Some of the coolest maps made were from those H2H guys.


Edit:  Found this post from Kweassa. He posted some numbers he used for colors. Not sure what it looks like but you can try it offline. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,104708.msg1074678.html#msg1074678

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After setting the values, adjust the arena time with a multiplyer of 100 - that will make the clock tick very fast, and you can check the transition of colors of the sky going dawn->day->dusk.
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2009, 02:03:37 AM »
I don't remember that... And they've removed the AH1 screenshots from the homepage.

Made me nostalgic.  From 2003. My son Drew and I pretending to be low level intruder Mossie pilots, ala "Terror in the Starboard Seat"





We tried out low level desert A20s too.  Don't remember this map at all, but clearly lots of tan


Interesting destructions of the buildings :)
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2009, 04:46:48 AM »
Nice.. That does look better.. It looks like the difference is either less fog and/or higher ambient lighting.  I'm pretty sure this is good proof that the game was much better with the AH1 level of lighting.  At some point in AH2 development the lighting was toned down and everything since then has looked really dark. 
I think that tan map is AKPizza. Thanks Dan.
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2009, 09:37:34 AM »
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2009, 09:50:10 AM »
Yep, the desert map is Pizza.  I had forgotten about those old buildings.  That was a short trip down memory lane.
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2009, 10:04:36 AM »
Bombers looked better exploding that way too.
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Re: Fudging the Rules
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2009, 11:05:48 AM »
Everybody knows you only get 3 wishes.

I didn't even get THOSE answered officialy, I think some administrators wrote back, but nothing official. Kinda like HT saying he should kick that guy in the ribs.

A solution would be to add a thread or forum, ya lets make it a whole new forum link, posted at the top of the page in the wishlist forum. It would have a page to a half page worth of threads in it and HTC could answer them "officialy" and it would cut down on a lot of useless threads (beaufight, I have seen a lot of those and it dosen't look like were gona get that any time soon, B29, I know I posted one, but that was my first wishlist post and on my first day, again, were not gona get that anytime time soon either) if HT said no personaly (people could read the threads and responses, just not post any new threads).   After 1 day the threads could be deleted and that would allow new threads to be posted. Or it could be every week to allow HTC more time. It would be more work for HTC but once done I think it would be worth it.
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