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Offline stodd

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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2009, 01:08:21 PM »
Be sorry.
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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2009, 02:50:39 PM »
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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2009, 10:59:20 PM »
If you did read what i wrote you will see what i ment. Did i say that they used that CV???? Nooooo

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa4442/is_200703/ai_n18705174/

So what you're saying is the Germans built a single aircraft carrier and, according to the link you provided, it never saw combat.  Therefore, neither the carrier nor the aircraft that were never built to go on the carrier should be considered at all.

Correct?


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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2009, 11:21:51 PM »
They were building one.  They never finished it.
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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2009, 09:12:12 AM »
Italians had one too, both did nada in the war as neither was operational.

Just because a guy had a bowel movement in WWII doesn't mean we should model it.

There are some guys who want a "German everything".  Cut a swastika into your hair and let that suffice for now OK?  The Germans, Japanese, Italians, British, Russians, French,etc.  thought about , and even worked on, a lot of stuff, so did we, doesn't make it a viable WWII air combat sim addition. 
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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2009, 01:20:08 PM »
correct.. German did build the CV but the Graft Zeppelin didn't get ready before the war was over.
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The Kriegsmarine (German navy) never had an aircraft carrier during WWII, but it came close. In 1935, Hitler deemed that the Kriegsmarine would build aircraft carriers. At this point in naval history, the battleship was still the primary naval vessel, and aircraft carriers something of a novelty; therefore, naval treaties concentrated on limiting battleship tonnage. In 1937, shipbuilders laid the keel for the 33,500-tonne Graf Zeppelin and launched her the next year. However, she was never completed. Herman Goering thought that the carrier would intrude on the duties of his Luftwaffe, and Admiral Karl Doenitz championed U-Boats over surface vessels. Such territorial fights and the increasing shortage of war materials led to her abandonment at 80% completion. The Soviets captured the Graf Zeppelin in 1945, but it wasn’t learned until 2006 that the Soviets used her for target practice and sank her in 1947.
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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2009, 01:22:40 PM »
So what you're saying is the Germans built a single aircraft carrier and, according to the link you provided, it never saw combat.  Therefore, neither the carrier nor the aircraft that were never built to go on the carrier should be considered at all.

Correct?


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Wrongway, wrong again.

The Bf109-T was most certainly built, and most certainly saw combat as a land based fighter.  Don't give a hoot about carriers, but the A/C were there.

EDIT:  Here ya go  Bf109T of 11./JG11.  This plane was shot down by Bud Andersen.

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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2009, 01:40:56 PM »
Correct... Germany did have modified planes that can takeoff and land on the CV. Not many, but they did.... :salute

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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2009, 06:34:12 PM »
Italians had one too, both did nada in the war as neither was operational.

Just because a guy had a bowel movement in WWII doesn't mean we should model it.

There are some guys who want a "German everything".  Cut a swastika into your hair and let that suffice for now OK?  The Germans, Japanese, Italians, British, Russians, French,etc.  thought about , and even worked on, a lot of stuff, so did we, doesn't make it a viable WWII air combat sim addition. 
Hey, don't be hatin' on the swastika, be hatin' on the Nazi swastika. I like the line about the bowel movement though.
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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2009, 06:59:55 PM »
Wrongway, wrong again.

The Bf109-T was most certainly built, and most certainly saw combat as a land based fighter.  Don't give a hoot about carriers, but the A/C were there.

EDIT:  Here ya go  Bf109T of 11./JG11.  This plane was shot down by Bud Andersen.

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I know.  I got carried away overgeneralizing.

Weren't they based on the Bf-109E?

And, what do you mean wrong again?   

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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2009, 03:27:56 AM »
A Bf109T from JG5 was the first Luftwaffe fighter to down a B17.

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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2009, 04:06:45 AM »

There are some guys who want a "German everything".  Cut a swastika into your hair and let that suffice for now OK? 

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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2009, 09:48:08 AM »
Well the 109T obviously deserves inclusion at some time.  Carrier duty though?  I will leave that to the AH braniacs to figure out.
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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2009, 12:34:05 PM »
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Re: BF109s AND JU87s off CV
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2009, 12:46:14 PM »
i think it is good as it is