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Offline DrDea

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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2009, 05:09:34 PM »
I think hes saying his opinion of a ho is what most call jousting
Actually his comment is the very definition of a HO. Ive seen many call a shot where both didnt have a guns solution HO's. Not every frontal shot is a HO grasshopper
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2009, 05:47:15 PM »
A "HO" is when someone attempts to shoot you on the initial merge, assuming the initial "merge" isn't in the middle of a furball. This means that if either opponent opens up on a merge, even if they're no longer nose to nose (i.e., one plane attempts to roll out or otherwise avoid the HO), it's still a HO. After the initial merge, there is no HO.

A "merge," for our discussion, is when two aircraft point their noses at each other, from a considerable distance, and close toward each other in an obvious attempt to engage each other. If one is in the middle of a furball, there is no merge. Though you might come nose to nose with an opponent durring a furball, don't expect him/her to hold the trigger, and don't complain if he/she doesn't.

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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2009, 06:41:20 PM »
A "HO" is when someone attempts to shoot you on the initial merge, assuming the initial "merge" isn't in the middle of a furball. This means that if either opponent opens up on a merge, even if they're no longer nose to nose (i.e., one plane attempts to roll out or otherwise avoid the HO), it's still a HO. After the initial merge, there is no HO.

A "merge," for our discussion, is when two aircraft point their noses at each other, from a considerable distance, and close toward each other in an obvious attempt to engage each other. If one is in the middle of a furball, there is no merge. Though you might come nose to nose with an opponent durring a furball, don't expect him/her to hold the trigger, and don't complain if he/she doesn't.

i don't point my nose at the aircraft i'm merging with. or at least i try to not let it go nose to nose.

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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2009, 12:10:53 AM »
Actually his comment is the very definition of a HO. Ive seen many call a shot where both didnt have a guns solution HO's. Not every frontal shot is a HO grasshopper
See i know this, but i think his definition of a HO is where you have people saying it takes 2 to do it everything else is fair game.  :rofl grasshopper
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2009, 08:12:38 AM »
See i know this, but i think his definition of a HO is where you have people saying it takes 2 to do it everything else is fair game.  :rofl grasshopper
OK Grasshopper.I can go along with that for the most case,except when plane a dives down to avoid and dweeb b dives down and gets the lucky shot in. HO is mostly intention. The guy has no intention in trying to get into an extended fight. Dweeb b wants to kill em as fast as he can.Plane a wants to engage and do some acm.
 Most of the people that tried to give me the hot merge couldnt fly their way out of a wet paper bag anyway.Thats why they do that.
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2009, 08:57:14 AM »
OK Grasshopper.I can go along with that for the most case,except when plane a dives down to avoid and dweeb b dives down and gets the lucky shot in. HO is mostly intention. The guy has no intention in trying to get into an extended fight. Dweeb b wants to kill em as fast as he can.Plane a wants to engage and do some acm.
 Most of the people that tried to give me the hot merge couldnt fly their way out of a wet paper bag anyway.Thats why they do that.

actually, when i do get ho'd it's a "veteran" player much more often than a noob. kinda like they don't wanna chance losing to a B38.  :D :noid :rofl
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2009, 02:47:45 PM »
The shot was taken well after the first merge.  What issue would anyone have with that?  You had to fight for that shot.

Besides...110 vs. F4U.  I mean c'mon.  :)
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2009, 02:57:41 PM »
I told H5117 I'd concede it was a very weak HO (as he put it) if someone in this thread could convince me.  It's also one more example of a grey-area of gameplay for players to chew on. :)
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2009, 03:00:37 PM »
I like when you identify the HO and try to avoid and the guy says on 200 it was a left corner panel shot pfft. Im done attempting to avoid anymore. HO my p40. :D
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2009, 04:57:57 PM »
funny when they say that wasnt a ho it was at 20 degree

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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2009, 05:25:50 PM »
funny when they say that wasnt a ho it was at 20 degree

that's generally what the ho'er says when you try to avoid them. they claim it wasn't a ho, because you didn't have a shot....and of course you didn't have a shot....you tried to maneuver, and enjoy the fight, that they are obviously afraid of losing.
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2009, 06:01:24 PM »
that's generally what the ho'er says when you try to avoid them. they claim it wasn't a ho, because you didn't have a shot....and of course you didn't have a shot....you tried to maneuver, and enjoy the fight, that they are obviously afraid of losing.
your right cap just happened to me iwas over a knit base alone. there was 5 uppers i dove and killed the 16 and ran like hell with 3 chacing. i seen they turned around but 1 a f4ud so i turned around got a little alt on the 1st merge i was going under him his guns here blasing so i cut throttle hit a couple flaps in came in from underneath and took his wings off.love when that happens

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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2009, 06:16:14 PM »
your right cap just happened to me iwas over a knit base alone. there was 5 uppers i dove and killed the 16 and ran like hell with 3 chacing. i seen they turned around but 1 a f4ud so i turned around got a little alt on the 1st merge i was going under him his guns here blasing so i cut throttle hit a couple flaps in came in from underneath and took his wings off.love when that happens

BUT YOU SEE MY POINT THOUGH........

had he got you, and you thanked him for the ho, he'd have said it wasn't...since you tried to avoid.

sorry bout the caps lock in the beginning....had it on, and didn't feel like re-typing
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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2009, 11:32:44 PM »
just wondering is there a ho in this film?

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Re: Evil, evil HO, episode II
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2009, 11:34:22 PM »