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Offline Lye-El

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« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2009, 05:13:23 PM »
The Bolo series of books by Keith Laumer

Tanks had just enough smarts to do perimeter guard duty autonomously. Over time their processing power grew as did their abilities. Over the course of a few hundred years they became Bolos and were deployed in many off world battles and are fiercely loyal to their regiments. The books tell the story from the humans viewpoint as well as the Bolos viewpoint as they are self aware.  A good read.


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« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2009, 05:48:47 PM »
Has anybody ever read the Harry Turtledove books on alternate timelines.  They always looked good from the back covers but I've never read any of them. 
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« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2009, 05:50:02 PM »
Has anybody ever read the Harry Turtledove books on alternate timelines.  They always looked good from the back covers but I've never read any of them. 

I have the whole series, they're pretty good. Get weirder the farther he goes though.
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« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2009, 06:09:08 PM »
I have the whole series, they're pretty good. Get weirder the farther he goes though.

Yeah, I read the whole damn thing was wasn't unhappy that it finally ended. After the first 2000 pages or so it became more of an addiction than a pleasure lol.

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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2009, 06:30:11 PM »
I'll mirror the OP's method of posting :)


Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F. Hamilton.

Note: Night's Dawn is composed of 3 'core' books. The first 2 books in the trilogy were sold in 2 'parts' each. Those wanting to read it need be aware of this to avoid reading Part 1 of one novel and jumping to part 1 of the second novel and wondering wtf happened in between ;)

Novels in the Trilogy: Reality Dysfunction, The Neutronium Alchemist, The Naked God.

Novel 1: The Reality Dysfunction
The Reality Dysfunction Part 1: Emergence
The Reality Dysfunction Part 2: Expansion

Novel 2: The Neutronium Alchemist
The Neutronium Alchemist Part 1: Consolidation
The Neutronium Alchemist Part 2: Conflict

Novel 3: The Naked God
(this one is one novel that is as fat as 2 books on its own)


Synopsis:

In the year 2300+ humanity has split into two factions: The Adamists who use technology and the Edenists who use bio-technology (in the novel reffered to as 'Bitek'). The two factions are not at war but have become distant in what can be called a pseudo-religious schism. The Adamists consider it sinful to use living (sometimes sentient) things as a technological base whereas Edenists society sees the Adamists as cousins who will eventually come around. Both sides have great nobility and terrible dark sides within them and the novels explore many aspects of their societies.

Adamists live mainly on planets and asteroid colonies and Edenists live on Habitats (massive, small-planet sized organic, sentient beings that were designed and grown by Edenists as a home. Think of them as a living Babylon5-type station...just planetoid-sized). Edenists use living, sentient bitek starships called 'Voidhawks' whereas Adamists use regular metal-built vessels (though some adamists use bitek ships called Blackhawks). Adamists use nano-technology to enchance themselves (neural implants that turn their brains into computers which can send real-time voice messages to each other, synthetic muscles, boosted performance, etc) while edenists are all-natural and use bitek genetic engineering to give themselves Affinity (telepathy and the ability to share their minds with others, in essence edenists can become a hive mind when making decisions or dealing with a crisis).

Within the Adamists there are many independent nations but the great majority, including the Edenists, have joined together to form the Confederation.

The novels begin following the events of several characters, mainly of Joshua Calvert and how they go about their life and fortunes in this universe. The author does a great job in making the novel fluid and interesting on things as simple as a bussiness breakthrough or at what a teenaged girl does to get away from a life she finds dull .. and also follows the story a young psychotic criminal that got deported out of earth to another planet.

But all that changes when the Confederation faces an inconceivable threat: the dead are coming back and possessing the living. If that was not enough they also learn that the 2 other sentient spacefaring races they have encountered (and which are part of the Confederation as friends and observers) are not exactly what they appeared to be..and one of them has the potential to destroy humanity. If the returning dead don't beat them to it of course.

I give these novels an 8/10 . I wont spoil the ending but lets just say the WAY the trilogy closes is very dissapointing (not in the story but just how it was written really). Thats why it lost 2 points.



DUNE by Frank Herbert

I wont say any more. You have to read these. 10/10 . Too complicated to put a synopsis of it.

Dune
Children of Dune
Dune Messiah
God Emperor of Dune
Heretics of Dune
Chapterhouse: Dune

10/10 for each book.

You may also read the pre-quels and post-sequels written by the author's son after the Author's death. His writing style SUCKS and its criminal how he used his father's work to make money but still, its supposedly based on notes left by the father (and once you read the books listed above you will be able to tell right away which parts were and which weren't).

Personal note: One of the most touching things about these novels is that the author, Frank Herbert, based a big part of the novel on his wife's personality (Bene Gesserits & Jessica). After his wife died he wrote the plots and storylines to be used in the next dune novels, some of which he did not live to finish. Of these notes which were later used by his son, the very last sentence of the last book (written by his son) are said to be written directly by Frank Herbert and meant to be the closing tribute to his wife after she died.



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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2009, 07:55:36 PM »
Starship Troopers.......would you like to know more? :aok

The first movie was great, kept to the book plot line and all. Second 1 suxed, 3rd one was so/so.


You think it stuck to the plot line?  There were vague elements of the plot of the book in there but the movies were all travesties.

There is something that will need to be remade.  Properly.

"Footfall" by Larry Niven.

I'm almost certain elements of this book were ripped off in the movies "Independence Day" AND "The Postman" though.  :noid

This was the first one I thought of and I agree with the "ripped off" stuff.


The Bolo series of books by Keith Laumer

Tanks had just enough smarts to do perimeter guard duty autonomously. Over time their processing power grew as did their abilities. Over the course of a few hundred years they became Bolos and were deployed in many off world battles and are fiercely loyal to their regiments. The books tell the story from the humans viewpoint as well as the Bolos viewpoint as they are self aware.  A good read.

I've read one short story of this series and need to find more.


My entry would be David Drake's Ranks of Bronze and the short stories it was based from.

A captured Roman Legion is "sold" into slavery to an alien trading conglomerate.  According to trading rules, a new planet cannot be conquered with superior technology.  So, in order to force trading relationships with new, undeveloped worlds, the trading syndicate uses the Romans to fight their battles for them.

Also, Eric Flint's 1632 collection of books and stories.

A small West Virgina coal mining town finds itself transported back in time to Central Germany, Thuringia specifically, during the 100 Years War.


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« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2009, 08:10:15 PM »
You think it stuck to the plot line?  There were vague elements of the plot of the book in there but the movies were all travesties.

There is something that will need to be remade.  Properly.

I absolutely loved Starship Troopers, I lent it out to all my friends and made them read it, and they all loved it too.  The best and most accurate review of the book came from a friend of mine.  He handed it back to me and said "the only thing that book lacks is about a thousand more pages."

Heinlein was a great author.

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« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2009, 08:37:15 PM »
As RTHOLMES allready posted, have to agree with Ian M Banks - would love to see "Excession" or "Consider Phlebas" on film. However the author has stated that he would not as he does not think film can do the works justice, but I think we're not far off.

There was an Asimov novel that captured my imagination as a child called  "The ends of Eternity" - would love to see this on the big screen. More Asimov works: the whole "Caves of Steel" to "Foundation and Earth" maybe Jackson could take this on since he did Tolkein admirably.


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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2009, 09:30:47 PM »
Heinlien's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".
 Read it if you never have.

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« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2009, 11:48:40 PM »
My entry would be David Drake's Ranks of Bronze and the short stories it was based from.

I read several of his Lt. Leary novels recently. Decent, space battles involving the physics of actually hurling objects at other ships is a breath of fresh air vs. all the "shields and phasers" stuff.
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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2009, 01:35:56 AM »
Julian May's Saga of the Pliocene Exiles would make a great series of movies:

Synopsis - in the near future, humanity is evolving and previously latent or hidden metaphysical powers like telepathy and telekinesis are becoming mainstream and accepted. As a result, mankind has been accepted into a galactic confederation of races who share similar powers and has entered a golden age. However, for some misfits, panacea just isn't for them and they take the option of utilizing a one way time warp discovered in France to travel back 6 million years to the Pliocene Epoch expecting to take up a simpler rustic lifestyle. Unfortunately, when they get there, they discover two warring alien humanoid races are already there and either want to kill them or enslave them. Part SF, part fantasy, all great. 

Also, Iain M Banks Culture novels rock. The Player of Games may be my favourite SF novel ever. I'm too lazy to try and explain it. 

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« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2009, 03:20:28 AM »
Ubik by Philip K. Dick (1969) is something you want to read. I don't think this book will ever be turned into a movie - its plain impossible. My english sucks too much to provide you with synopsis but you'll find plenty in the net.

Recent brit incarnation of Dick is Jeff Noon - 'Vurt' (1993) is a real brain screwer and is definitely worth reading. As well as his other novels but Vurt hits hardest.

Neuromancer by William Gibson (1984) is a classic cyberpunk and a good book too - definitely worth reading. He also wrote lots of short stories but after hollywood massacred 'Johnny Mnemonic' you might be scared off from those. Here's one of my favourites, which I also think fits the context and behavior of some players in this game :) http://lib.ru/GIBSON/r_dogfight.txt

Some other of my favourite SF books I remember right now: 'Make Room! Make Room!' by Harry Harrison (1966), 'Tactics of Mistake" by Gordon R. Dickson (1971), Larry Niven's books, and almost everything by Mike Resnick.

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« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2009, 05:13:14 AM »
A great trilogy of books with the name of "Tripods" for the series as a whole is an excellent read.  The first book is titled "The White Mountains".  The second is "The City of Gold and Lead" and the third is "The Pool of Fire".  Written by John Christopher in 1967 for the first two books and 1968 for the third book.

The story of The Tripods is post-apocalyptic. Humanity has been conquered and enslaved by "the tripods", unseen alien entities who travel about in gigantic three-legged walking machines (the unsophisticated humans believe the walking machines themselves to be their living overlords). Human society is largely pastoral, with few habitations larger than villages, and what little industry exists is conducted under the watchful presence of the tripods. Lifestyle is reminiscent of the Middle Ages, but artifacts from previous ages are still used, giving individuals and homes a rather anachronistic appearance.

Humans are controlled from the age of 14 by implants called "caps", which suppress curiosity and creativity and leave the recipient placid and docile, incapable of dissent. The caps cause them to adore the tripods as their saviours. Some people whose minds are crushed under the pressure of the cap's hypnotic power become vagrants who wander the countryside shouting nonsense.

I had originally read this as a cartoon strip in issues of Boy's Life when I was in the Cub Scouts.  Then found them in the school library.  In the climatic finale in the third book involves the human resistance using hot air balloons against the aliens.
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« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2009, 05:43:24 AM »
You do know that Footfall was published in 1985 right (Grin)
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"Footfall" by Larry Niven.

I'm almost certain elements of this book were ripped off in the movies "Independence Day" AND "The Postman" though.  :noid
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« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2009, 05:58:32 AM »
The first thing to remember is that a novel is wayy to long to make into a movie. Mostly when hollywierd tries the end up with travesties like Dune better titled Highlites of Dune.

Better candidates would be novellas or even novelettes, the time frame is better suited to a film.

My personal candidate would be "By his bootstraps" by Heinlein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps


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