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Offline MachFly

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Don't move your controls so rapidly
« on: June 24, 2009, 07:41:13 PM »
I'm not sure where this topic goes, but i guess it could always be moved to the right spot.

How do you stop the Don't move your controls so rapidly sign? Because I noticed I always lose my perk planes when it comes up.
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 07:44:36 PM »
Your stick is probably spiking..... try increasing your dead zone.
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 07:45:57 PM »
I suggest you not move your controls so rapidly, then you won't get the message  :D
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2009, 07:46:25 PM »
By adjusting deadband and / or dampening on your control axis.

Go to Map Controller, select an axis and click "advanced". Move your stick and watch what happens at "raw" and "scaled" to identify the problem.
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 07:49:36 PM »
Well if you were the one in the tempest last night that was being chased by my 190.
then I'd suggest not moving your controls so rapidly LOL
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 08:01:19 PM »
Throw away your gear and invest in CH products.........
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 08:29:46 PM »
Stop stick stirring.

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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2009, 09:07:25 PM »
Throw away your gear and invest in CH products.........

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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 09:18:05 PM »
I'm not sure where this topic goes, but i guess it could always be moved to the right spot.

How do you stop the Don't move your controls so rapidly sign? Because I noticed I always lose my perk planes when it comes up.

In a lot cases that error message is a pretty good indicator that there maybe something wrong with your controls.  It could be something as simple as the calibration going south or a hardware failure (potentiometers failing).  First thing to check is to make sure that your stick is properly calibrated in Windows.  Next, calibrate it in Aces High.  

Now, in Aces High there are two places where you calibrate your controls.  The basic calibration in AH allows you to calibrate all of your controls and the second calibration allows you to calibrate the individual axis of your controls.  It is not necessary to use both calibration methods in Aces High, the basic method is sufficient enough but I like the ability to calibrate the individual axis so that's the method I prefer to use.  I will add that it is important to calibrate your controls in AH after you've calibrated the controls in Windows.


Basic method to calibrate in AH
Clipboard --> Options --> Controls --> Calibrate Joystick

Advanced Method
Clipboard --> Options --> Controls --> Map Controllers --> Select Axis to calibrate --> Click on 'Calibrate Axis' button


If you still get that error message after you've properly calibrated in Windows and AH, then look at your stick scaling.  Sometimes an improperly set stick scale can cause those errors.  Also, try increasing the deadbands.  Increasing damping really won't fix it as all that does is increase/decrease the amount of 'stick' force needed to move your controls.  

If you still get the error message after trying all the above, it's time to seriously start looking at your hardware as the culprit.  If you have a USB controller, make sure that you're using a powered USB hub.  If you are using a powered USB hub, make sure that the hub is outputting sufficient voltage to power your USB devices.  The voltage is a standard 5volts.

Next, check the potentiometers.  When a potentiometer starts to go bad, dead spots often appear and this is what causes (in most cases) the error message.  When you are moving your controls and encounter a dead spot, the signals jump (signals are represented as numeric values, so when you move the numbers go up...1,2,3,4, etc.  When there is a dead spot, it looks like this 1,2,3,4,75,76,78,etc.) and the game is thinking you're moving your controls too fast that the game cannot receive the proper data because the game sees the signals going from one number and then skipping a bunch and then settling down and the game tells you to slow your control movement so the data won't get lost.

Anyway, that's a layman's description of it.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 10:57:47 PM »
In a lot cases that error message is a pretty good indicator that there maybe something wrong with your controls.  It could be something as simple as the calibration going south or a hardware failure (potentiometers failing).  First thing to check is to make sure that your stick is properly calibrated in Windows.  Next, calibrate it in Aces High.  

Now, in Aces High there are two places where you calibrate your controls.  The basic calibration in AH allows you to calibrate all of your controls and the second calibration allows you to calibrate the individual axis of your controls.  It is not necessary to use both calibration methods in Aces High, the basic method is sufficient enough but I like the ability to calibrate the individual axis so that's the method I prefer to use.  I will add that it is important to calibrate your controls in AH after you've calibrated the controls in Windows.


Basic method to calibrate in AH
Clipboard --> Options --> Controls --> Calibrate Joystick

Advanced Method
Clipboard --> Options --> Controls --> Map Controllers --> Select Axis to calibrate --> Click on 'Calibrate Axis' button


If you still get that error message after you've properly calibrated in Windows and AH, then look at your stick scaling.  Sometimes an improperly set stick scale can cause those errors.  Also, try increasing the deadbands.  Increasing damping really won't fix it as all that does is increase/decrease the amount of 'stick' force needed to move your controls.  

If you still get the error message after trying all the above, it's time to seriously start looking at your hardware as the culprit.  If you have a USB controller, make sure that you're using a powered USB hub.  If you are using a powered USB hub, make sure that the hub is outputting sufficient voltage to power your USB devices.  The voltage is a standard 5volts.

Next, check the potentiometers.  When a potentiometer starts to go bad, dead spots often appear and this is what causes (in most cases) the error message.  When you are moving your controls and encounter a dead spot, the signals jump (signals are represented as numeric values, so when you move the numbers go up...1,2,3,4, etc.  When there is a dead spot, it looks like this 1,2,3,4,75,76,78,etc.) and the game is thinking you're moving your controls too fast that the game cannot receive the proper data because the game sees the signals going from one number and then skipping a bunch and then settling down and the game tells you to slow your control movement so the data won't get lost.

Anyway, that's a layman's description of it.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2009, 11:07:22 PM »
In a lot cases that error message is a pretty good indicator that there maybe something wrong with your controls.  It could be something as simple as the calibration going south or a hardware failure (potentiometers failing).  First thing to check is to make sure that your stick is properly calibrated in Windows.  Next, calibrate it in Aces High.  

Now, in Aces High there are two places where you calibrate your controls.  The basic calibration in AH allows you to calibrate all of your controls and the second calibration allows you to calibrate the individual axis of your controls.  It is not necessary to use both calibration methods in Aces High, the basic method is sufficient enough but I like the ability to calibrate the individual axis so that's the method I prefer to use.  I will add that it is important to calibrate your controls in AH after you've calibrated the controls in Windows.


Basic method to calibrate in AH
Clipboard --> Options --> Controls --> Calibrate Joystick

Advanced Method
Clipboard --> Options --> Controls --> Map Controllers --> Select Axis to calibrate --> Click on 'Calibrate Axis' button


If you still get that error message after you've properly calibrated in Windows and AH, then look at your stick scaling.  Sometimes an improperly set stick scale can cause those errors.  Also, try increasing the deadbands.  Increasing damping really won't fix it as all that does is increase/decrease the amount of 'stick' force needed to move your controls.  

If you still get the error message after trying all the above, it's time to seriously start looking at your hardware as the culprit.  If you have a USB controller, make sure that you're using a powered USB hub.  If you are using a powered USB hub, make sure that the hub is outputting sufficient voltage to power your USB devices.  The voltage is a standard 5volts.

Next, check the potentiometers.  When a potentiometer starts to go bad, dead spots often appear and this is what causes (in most cases) the error message.  When you are moving your controls and encounter a dead spot, the signals jump (signals are represented as numeric values, so when you move the numbers go up...1,2,3,4, etc.  When there is a dead spot, it looks like this 1,2,3,4,75,76,78,etc.) and the game is thinking you're moving your controls too fast that the game cannot receive the proper data because the game sees the signals going from one number and then skipping a bunch and then settling down and the game tells you to slow your control movement so the data won't get lost.

Anyway, that's a layman's description of it.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2009, 08:42:22 AM »
Your stick is probably spiking..... try increasing your dead zone.

This worked for me.  I see the message a lot less now. 
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2009, 09:49:36 AM »
I suggest you not move your controls so rapidly, then you won't get the message  :D
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Re: Don't move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2009, 12:21:24 AM »
thanks
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