Rise of Flight

[MiloMorai]

If 10,000 games are sold and each new a/c cost $5.00, that is $50,000.

10 a/c would be $500,000. 

[Saxman]

Greed? I disagree. I think of it as paying for quality.
They release new aircraft - 1 each month with outstanding FM, DM and visual model. How is that any different than what HTC provides? 15$ a month - and you have to be online to play it?.
Although draconian DRM is annoying.  If server is down, I no longer can play even offline.

There is NO comparison to Aces High. Aces High is a monthly payment to play the game ONLINE. We do NOT pay for each patch or update that comes out. Maybe you're on a different payment plan, but I know *I* won't have to shell out an extra 5 bucks to be able to fly the Brewster or I-16 when they're released.

If the flight, damage, and visual models for these aircraft are ALREADY PRESENT, then why not make them flyable from the start? They either did it to rush it out the door, an excuse to make more money by charging to "activate" these planes, or all of the above. Shady, and I'm not going for it. This isn't paying for quality. This is paying 50 bucks for an incomplete game, and an additional 5 bucks each time they "activate" an existing aircraft as flyable that should have been available from the get-go.

[jdbecks]

Greed? I disagree. I think of it as paying for quality.
They release new aircraft - 1 each month with outstanding FM, DM and visual model. How is that any different than what HTC provides? 15$ a month - and you have to be online to play it?.
Although draconian DRM is annoying.  If server is down, I no longer can play even offline.

I dont think you can compare a MMO with a single player game.

Like I say, I will not purchase the game if it was not for the need to be online and connected to the internet for me to the single player version of the game. And I wont pay for extra planes that should have been released from the start..I mean 4 or 2 planes to choose from 

[Ack-Ack]

Well, I'm not gonna pay 50 bucks for two flyable planes and however much more they want to charge for making each additional one flyable. If they make them free patches like Il-2, then maybe I'll reconsider, but as I said, this is just plain greed.

It's actually $39 USD.


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[mechanic]

If 10,000 games are sold and each new a/c cost $5.00, that is $50,000.

10 a/c would be $500,000. 

Thats not too bad really, but only if the game lasts for 10 years at that price.

(12x15)x10 = $1800 per subscriber of ten years constant AcesHigh

Lets just throw a random and obviously inaccurate estimated figure in there of 1000x12 month subs for each year of those ten = $1.8mil 

[Saxman]

It's actually $39 USD.


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That's still more than I'm willing to pay for an incomplete game that they're only going to turn around and charge more to unlock planes that should have been available to fly from the start.

[mechanic]

AcesHigh has been online and available to play 24/7/365 practicaly since it first opened, hasnt it? HTC have earned every penny and then some. This is why I will pay 15/month to them but I will most likely not agree to pay for RoF.

[allaire]

They have had people who couldn't register on their website to activate their game.   They have disabled the need for a confirmation email, because of the site issues.  Makes me smile to see their choice of DRM is biting them in the ass.  I don't want to see the company have to many issues but this shoots giant holes in their DRM/CP choice.  Also the game is already being pirated all it's gonna take is for someone to waste his time making a crack for it.

[bozon]

AcesHigh has been online and available to play 24/7/365 practicaly since it first opened, hasnt it? HTC have earned every penny and then some. This is why I will pay 15/month to them but I will most likely not agree to pay for RoF.

I payed for AH for over 6 years net., starting in times when it was 25$ (or was it 29$?), not including ISP+telephone fees that was charging by the hour at the time. That is by far the most I ever spent on a game and I don't regret a single dollar.

I will pay for extra content in an offline game if and only if the initial package is dirty cheap and acts as a demo for the game - otherwise, this is just selling half a product for a full price or overpricing the game in an ugly way.

[Skuzzy]

Greed? I disagree. I think of it as paying for quality.
They release new aircraft - 1 each month with outstanding FM, DM and visual model. How is that any different than what HTC provides? 15$ a month - and you have to be online to play it?.
Although draconian DRM is annoying.  If server is down, I no longer can play even offline.

You do not have to be online to play it.  We provide a 'mission editor', 'terrain editor', and 'cloud editor' you can create all the offline missions you want and fly against AI if you like.  You never have to pay HTC a penny for the game or the content editors.

It really is a poor comparison as the buiness models are worlds apart.

[Heater]

From the Development Team addressing the Question about "Pay for Updates"

heywooood wrote:
does this mean that we MUST purchase any updates that are not free? - it sounds like it to me.

Updates are free for downloading and installation via official updating system.
Update may contain both bugfixes for binaries/data, and new content.

[DREDIOCK]

In 25 years of computing I've observed one constant. No matter what anti piracy scheme they come out with. Someone finds a way around it or how to outright defeat it.

I dont do it. And I dont condone it.
But let me say I cannot respond to my own post without being in violation of some rules here LMAO

Too f funny though

HTC has the best way around the entire piracy thing. Theres' nothing to pirate. The game is the advertisement for the site. You can do a little bit of this or a little bit of that offline. Just enough to grab your interest. But if you want to do anything on a large scale. Ya gotta subscribe.Their largest worry is probably the occasional hacker that gets into the MA's unauthenticated. And they can manage those as they see em.
Much easier and less aggravating then comming up with an AP scheme that will be broken in less then two weeks LOL

[Shuffler]

I dont do it. And I dont condone it.
But let me say I cannot respond to my own post without being in violation of some rules here LMAO

Too f funny though

HTC has the best way around the entire piracy thing. Theres' nothing to pirate. The game is the advertisement for the site. You can do a little bit of this or a little bit of that offline. Just enough to grab your interest. But if you want to do anything on a large scale. Ya gotta subscribe.Their largest worry is probably the occasional hacker that gets into the MA's unauthenticated. And they can manage those as they see em.
Much easier and less aggravating then comming up with an AP scheme that will be broken in less then two weeks LOL

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[Russian]

I don't see what you guys are crying about.  I've spend 150$ on SPProPE and enjoyed every spent penny.  I doubt I'll spend on ROF that much after a year worth of game. 


If you have a hobby - enjoy it. 

[Russian]