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Offline akusher

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porsche 911 (996)
« on: June 26, 2009, 02:20:16 PM »
Anybody here have any experience with these cars?

Specifically, how to spot oil seal leakage without waiting for a puddle to collect on the garage floor?

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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 02:40:15 PM »
you thinking about buying a used one?, if so I would do the right thing and take it to a Porsche repair shop and pay to have them check the car out.

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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2009, 04:11:30 PM »
Fun to drive but just too darn small.
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2009, 06:24:49 PM »
Anybody here have any experience with these cars?

Specifically, how to spot oil seal leakage without waiting for a puddle to collect on the garage floor?

hit your local napa store. you should be able to by\uy a dye kit. you put uv dye in the engine oil...it's made for it.......then drive it a little......look around in the engine compartment for the dye..using a uv light. the dye generally shows up neon green........follow it. where it ends, is where the leak is.


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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2009, 07:25:45 PM »
Anybody here have any experience with these cars?

Specifically, how to spot oil seal leakage without waiting for a puddle to collect on the garage floor?
Is it air or water cooled? Do not use dye, your oil will be green forever.
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 07:36:58 PM »
Is it air or water cooled? Do not use dye, your oil will be green forever.

and that's a problem because?

when i have any fluid leaking on a car, if i can't put it up on the lift, and see where it's coming from, i pop dye in it. it is THE best way to find a fluid leak on an automotive engine. i've yet to have a complaint about it, after 27 or so years.
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2009, 11:41:59 AM »
and that's a problem because?

when i have any fluid leaking on a car, if i can't put it up on the lift, and see where it's coming from, i pop dye in it. it is THE best way to find a fluid leak on an automotive engine. i've yet to have a complaint about it, after 27 or so years.
Its a problem because its not professional. Popping dye in it before putting car on the lift, bravo
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2009, 12:16:57 PM »
Its a problem because its not professional. Popping dye in it before putting car on the lift, bravo

you obviously don't know much about cars then.

i've been fixing them for 27 or so years. dye is the best way. when you go under it, if it's been driven at all, the oil will be spread all over the place, making it impossible to determine where it came from......assuming it isn't pouring out.
 
 i've never had a customer complaint, because i put dye in their oil. i have had some say it was a great idea, as it makes it more visible.

 just an FYI, the dye will NOTturn your oil green to the naked eye..

so...back to the original topic........clean it, put dye in it, run it, use the uv light, and find the leak.
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2009, 03:35:52 PM »
The 911 has an air-cooled horizontally opposed (boxer) six-cylinder engine.  The crank and cam are accessed by splitting the entire crankcase.  the cylinders or "jugs" and heads are bolted to the sides of the crankcase.  By the nature of their design, these engines leak oil right out of the factory.  A 911 engine that leaks oil is not a bad 911 engine, it's just a 911 engine.

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2009, 03:48:37 PM »
Sluggish, the 996 was the first 911 to have a water-cooled engine.
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2009, 04:35:49 PM »
They are kinda like old Harley's...expect them to leak oil.  Just think of it as they are making their territory!

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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2009, 05:47:12 PM »
you obviously don't know much about cars then.

i've been fixing them for 27 or so years. dye is the best way. when you go under it, if it's been driven at all, the oil will be spread all over the place, making it impossible to determine where it came from......assuming it isn't pouring out.
 
 i've never had a customer complaint, because i put dye in their oil. i have had some say it was a great idea, as it makes it more visible.

 just an FYI, the dye will NOTturn your oil green to the naked eye..

so...back to the original topic........clean it, put dye in it, run it, use the uv light, and find the leak.

I know enough to find an oil leak without popping dye in engine. 10 years for me, never had to use it,
FYI it does change color to the naked eye, unless you are color blind, which makes me wonder.
And yes!! I've had several complains about strange oil color, probably your customers:)
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2009, 05:57:52 PM »
I know enough to find an oil leak without popping dye in engine. 10 years for me, never had to use it,
FYI it does change color to the naked eye, unless you are color blind, which makes me wonder.
And yes!! I've had several complains about strange oil color, probably your customers:)
This is turning ugly.
Accept my apologies but i am ending this argument.

it's not an argument...it's a discussion.


i put 1/2 of the little 3 ounce bottles in a v8. the oil looks normal, except for around the filler cap, where you can see evidence of it.

 you haven;t been in it long enough to see some of the really fun oil leaks then at 10 years....and i'm not trying to be derogatory.
 i work on everything. if it is driven on the street, and can fit in my bay, i can fix it......diagnose it......make it work again.

 in all honesty, i pretty much despise most european manufacturers.....my preference is towards asian and american cars. volvos aren't too bad either....ugly, but not too bad.

 i was looking online at these engines......seems they have a fairly significant failure rate too.......
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2009, 08:12:24 AM »
This is the first time Ive heard of people pouring a solution into the engine oil to look for leaks, to Find oil leaks is pretty easy and should not require a solution IMHO, firstly you Identify what type of oil it is by smell or colour, ie transmission fluid, engine oil, brake fluid or even coolant. then you look for seepage or if no visible leak can be identified due to it be splashed over a large space of the engine bay/block you work down from the highest point of oil and going from there, any competent mechanic and DIY mechanics should not have a problem with identifying a leak no matter how small or big.

 I have very little experience with American engines, just euro & jap engines, I also own a race car which coincidentally next week I'm fully rebuilding the engine and replacing 95% of the engine parts. CAP1 you know Volvo engines are the same as the ford engines in most of there cars, as ford own volvo. Over here people do not like American cars/engines that much either... So I think it mostly comes to what your use to etc.I don't like, Ford/Vauxhall/French/VAG engines that much like I said I love jap engines but thats mostly because thats where my experience is in.


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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/
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Re: porsche 911 (996)
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2009, 08:18:43 AM »
Shouldn't UV dye only show up green under a UV light...? Otherwise, it would just look like oil?
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