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Secret allied weapons of WW2
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:46:21 AM »
Top secret War Office papers have revealed a strange and macabre weapons project tested by the Allies during World War II.

Lethal clouds of tiny poisoned darts were to be tipped with mustard gas to kill enemy troops without damaging nearby buildings or equipment.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8119653.stm
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Re: Secret allied weapons of WW2
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2009, 10:30:40 AM »
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Re: Secret allied weapons of WW2
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2009, 11:13:20 AM »
Can you image what the Nazis would have done if we used chemical warfare.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2009, 11:21:37 AM »
Can you image what the Nazis would have done if we used chemical warfare.

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2009, 12:18:05 PM »
The Nazis invented nerve gas in WWII and produced a sizable stockpile of weaponized chemical weapons. The only reason they weren't used was that Hitler abhorred chemical weapons because he was himself a victim of a mustard gas attack during WWI. He ordered they only be used in response to an Allied chemical attack. If the Allies had used their, by comparison, primitive WWI chemical weapons it could have changed the outcome of the war. Germany would have had a huge advantage.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2009, 12:38:33 PM »
The Nazis invented nerve gas in WWII and produced a sizable stockpile of weaponized chemical weapons.

To give some numbers:

In spring 1944 the Luftwaffe alone had 658,000 chemical bombs in stock, about 100,000 being filled & ready for use.
Research & production went on throughout the war and stopped only as late as March '45
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2009, 12:51:50 PM »
From a military point of view one could say that Hitler was stupid for not letting his generals use these weapons. From a humanitarian point of view it is one of the very few things Hitler did that we can be thankful for.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2009, 12:52:00 PM »
thats interesting. nowadays you could still use it though tipped with an advanced sedative.

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2009, 03:44:42 PM »
Why are we talking about German chemical weapons, when the Allies had BAT BOMBS?
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2009, 03:58:40 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2009, 07:13:34 PM »
The Nazis had a huge lead over us in the nerve gas catagory. They just didnt know it. It was they who discovered and weaponized Tabun, Sarin, Soman. At least in artillary shells tho Im not aware of the exact numbers they had available. They did figure out how to do it tho.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2009, 02:25:11 AM »
Why are we talking about German chemical weapons, when the Allies had BAT BOMBS?

That would be a biological weapon.  It wasn't as effective as the U.S. thought it would be.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2009, 04:05:38 AM »
That would be a biological weapon.  It wasn't as effective as the U.S. thought it would be.

Actually it was neither. It was simply an incendiary device with a silly delivery method.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2009, 11:35:00 AM »
Actually it was neither. It was simply an incendiary device with a silly delivery method.

It is still biological.  You are using a animal in this case.

I do know that we did used biological weapon on Germany.  Not sure when and how long but we drooped insects, by the millions, on there agricultural area.  It was to hurt the production of food.  Not sure how well it work back then but some of the farmers are a bit bitter at us now as they are still trying to fight the bugs off from crop loss. 
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Re: Secret allied weapons of WW2
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2009, 12:35:51 PM »
That's is crazy. Brings a whole new meaning to being scared of needles

Quote from the article:
In one experiment, the Canadians had dressed sheep and goats in two layers of battledress material and positioned them across a wide area, some in trenches, to be exposed to the killer darts.
Scientists predicted that symptoms displayed by the animals would be similar to those affecting humans.
"The pulse becomes very slow and the blood pressure falls. The subject collapses and lies on its side with twitching muscles.
"Where the dose is lethal, death occurs on 30 minutes, usually preceded by convulsions."
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