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Offline Yarbles

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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2009, 02:15:46 PM »
Because they are no better than many free fighters and yet carry a perk price.

I am not sure its the perk that puts people off as much as the challenge of getiing it right. I do think the perk is unecessary though and un perked I dont think it would be much more popular.

Its a plane you have to really want to get to know. 
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2009, 02:43:40 PM »
It is pretty obvious how to use them, just not a lot of fun to be hunted when you are in something that can't disengage easily (Tempest, Me262) and doesn't have a really strong advantage compared to its free bretheren (F4U-1C) for the price.
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2009, 10:51:02 PM »
I am not sure its the perk that puts people off as much as the challenge of getiing it right. I do think the perk is unecessary though and un perked I dont think it would be much more popular.

Its a plane you have to really want to get to know. 

I agree with all of this.

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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #63 on: July 08, 2009, 12:33:53 AM »
just dont fly a spit lol, takes more skill to up a mans play (P-47) and accually fight in it :rock

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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #64 on: July 08, 2009, 12:37:06 AM »
just dont fly a spit lol, takes more skill to up a mans play (P-47) and accually fight in it :rock

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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #65 on: July 08, 2009, 12:55:51 AM »
I had the pleasure of taking up a Spit14 lately, if you can adjust for the reverse torque compared to other aircraft, it is a real killer. If you watch the G load, you can BnZ at will (it has a better climb rate than a 109K at some alts), it can turn decently, and has the same gun package as many of the other spits.
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #66 on: July 08, 2009, 03:00:25 AM »
I had the pleasure of taking up a Spit14 lately, if you can adjust for the reverse torque compared to other aircraft, it is a real killer.

Seriouslyu this is the thing I always forget.

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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2009, 03:11:17 AM »
Must write out 100x Reverse torque

It doesn't count if you just copy and paste repeatedly.  ;)
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2009, 04:42:52 AM »
In my opinion it's low usage is due to its top speed and handling at low speeds. 

It's not fast enough to run away from several aircraft commonly found in the MA primarily the p51, la7, tiffie, 109k4 and the 190d9.  Building an E advantage over a con or several cons, especially if one of them has an altitude advantage is a lot more challenging than pushing the nose down to disengage. 

The spit14's subpar low speed handling and departure charactersics make it a poor aircraft get slow and stall fight.  The best option is to once again try and build an E advantage over the enemy.

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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2009, 06:19:36 AM »
In my opinion it's low usage is due to its top speed and handling at low speeds. 

It's not fast enough to run away from several aircraft commonly found in the MA primarily the p51, la7, tiffie, 109k4 and the 190d9.  Building an E advantage over a con or several cons, especially if one of them has an altitude advantage is a lot more challenging than pushing the nose down to disengage. 

The spit14's subpar low speed handling and departure charactersics make it a poor aircraft get slow and stall fight.  The best option is to once again try and build an E advantage over the enemy.



And dont forget to use the revers torque ;)
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #70 on: July 08, 2009, 11:01:42 AM »
In my opinion it should be unperked or remodeled at +21lbs boost on 150 octane fuel.
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #71 on: July 08, 2009, 03:47:08 PM »
The only thing that a perk tag does is attracting attackers, which can be a good thing sometimes. The perk cost itself is a joke - I bet 90% of the AH players can afford flying the 14 for half a year, exclusively, and still have perks to spare. Out of those, 20% can fly it for a decade, not land a single sortie, and spare perks.
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #72 on: July 08, 2009, 04:19:38 PM »
That attracting attackers issue is why I didn't fly it much.
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #73 on: July 08, 2009, 04:23:52 PM »
I bet 90% of the AH players can afford flying the 14 for half a year, exclusively, and still have perks to spare.

I think, you are grossly overrating the average AH player, his skill level and perk pile. The guys with thousands of perks are an absolute minority. Keep in mind: 80% of all AH players don't even manage to get a K/D of 1.0, 50% of all players have a K/D of 0.3 or less, the average K/S is less than 0.4. That's pretty small gain in perks per tour if you consider that most of those kills are being achieved in ENY 5-8 planes (Spit 16, P51D, N1k...)
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Re: Spit 14
« Reply #74 on: July 08, 2009, 07:21:05 PM »
Ok, i'm a little bit embarassed i didn't notice this years ago, but it looks like the spit14's fuel tanks are a bit squiffy. 

 It appears a wing tank and main tank are mixed up, it could just be a labelling error, but if it could explain some of the handlin characteristics....  :noid   You spit14 aficionados should have a look at the different rates fuel is burnt in the wing tanks offline.

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