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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2009, 07:57:55 PM »
Low carbohydrate diet... Not low fat diets...

Heart healthy, reduces risk of diabetes, reduces triglycerides and cholesterol. It's taken the medical community 30 years to admit that Adkins was right (even if Adkins didn't know exactly why he was right). It doesn't mean you can't enjoy a high carb meal now and then. Moderation is the key. Get some routine exercise too. Walking, biking, any sport where you are active for 30 minutes is great.

The thing about low carb diets is that the lack of carbohydrates reduces the body's craving for sugars, and with it, reduces your appetite. You will eat less and barely notice.

Beer, by the way, is not loaded with complex carbos. Especially, light beers. Thus, it's perfectly fine to have a beer or two with an evening meal. Wines, both red and white are good too (red is supposedly better).


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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2009, 09:42:40 PM »
Wines, both red and white are good too (red is supposedly better).


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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2009, 07:03:34 AM »
Go on the internet and take advice on healthy living from a bunch of folks posting on an Bulletin Board for devotees of a video game.

You are guaranteed to live forever.


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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2009, 11:30:56 AM »
Beer, by the way, is not loaded with complex carbos. Especially, light beers. Thus, it's perfectly fine to have a beer or two with an evening meal.

hmmm. complex carbs are the ones you want, its the simple carbs that are harmful/useless (like the sugars in beer). complex carbs are a quicker source of blood glucose than proteins and fats. thats why athletes carb-pack with eg. pasta in the 12-24h before an event.

I used to row and a regatta is a really tough test for blood chemistry - races lasting ~6mins each separated by an hour or so. in the first ~15s of a race your creatine is all used up, by the end your blood glucose is pretty much all gone too, not to mention a huge build up of lactic acid in the muscles. after a race we would rehydrate, then eat sandwiches (with very little low-fat, zero sugar filling) or cold pasta. you see some guys eating mars bars (the packet says it gives you energy!), you know they are going to get a nice sucrose rush for ~15mins, then a massive blood glucose crash straight after.

metabolism is incredibly complex, but as a simple rule low-fat, low-carb is a good way to go. after that you need to know which are the good carbs and fats (ie fatty acids from fish oils good, pig lard bad). If I had to pick the best advice for diet it would probably come from a former eastern block olympic coach, contrary to public opinion the biggest factor in their results in the 70s and 80s wasnt from drug use but far superior sports science. the aussies have been doing great work in this area for the last couple of decades too :aok
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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2009, 12:17:38 PM »

metabolism is incredibly complex, but as a simple rule low-fat, low-carb is a good way to go.

That worked really well for me. Unfortunately it worked so well that I stopped working out and kept loosing weight for a good while. So when I fell off the wagon and wasn't working out at all it was a real squeak to get rid of again. Did anyone watch "Generation Kill?" That was a very funny point that Americans are pretty amazing for creating a culture that allows POOR fat people. Most "poor" people in the world can't afford to get fat.

Anyhow, I've been up and down over the years. My normal weight is about 180, which is fat (I'm 5'10). My optimum weight while working out is 175. After college I ballooned up to 210, and was so fat my back started having trouble. I've tried low fat diets, I've tried working out without changing my diet, and I went low-fat low carb. The best combination I've come up with for me is working out with low fat, medium carbs. That is, don't go crazy on the pasta, but don't fret of having toast with your eggs in the morning.

At the end of the day you can screw up any diet. I remember destroying a low fat diet by eating my weight in fat free pretzels lol. If people need a guide to help them figure out the whole low-fat/low carb diet, Southbeach is pretty good. I'm not a true believer or anything, but the concepts really do work. I noticed that my portion size really shrank on Southbeach too, and I think that's a huge part of it.

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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2009, 12:26:07 PM »
Low carbohydrate diet... Not low fat diets...

Heart healthy, reduces risk of diabetes, reduces triglycerides and cholesterol. It's taken the medical community 30 years to admit that Adkins was right (even if Adkins didn't know exactly why he was right). It doesn't mean you can't enjoy a high carb meal now and then. Moderation is the key. Get some routine exercise too. Walking, biking, any sport where you are active for 30 minutes is great.

The thing about low carb diets is that the lack of carbohydrates reduces the body's craving for sugars, and with it, reduces your appetite. You will eat less and barely notice.

Beer, by the way, is not loaded with complex carbos. Especially, light beers. Thus, it's perfectly fine to have a beer or two with an evening meal. Wines, both red and white are good too (red is supposedly better).


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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2009, 04:53:48 PM »
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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2009, 05:19:04 PM »
The best combination I've come up with for me is working out with low fat, medium carbs. That is, don't go crazy on the pasta, but don't fret of having toast with your eggs in the morning.

sounds about right, if your in training you will need the extra complex carbs for energy, if you're trying to add muscle mass, extra protein. essentially theres a baseline to which you add whats required for your regime. as for all the different diets, the only thing they achieve is sales of books, product and airtime, paid for by people who dont want to exercise. if you're overweight the only way to lose it is exercise and a healthy diet.
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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2009, 09:56:58 PM »
Medium carb sounds like the best way to go for a few reasons.

People seem to interpret 'low-carb' as 'no-carb' and avoid them like the plague.

If your body is not getting what it needs in the way of fuel, vitamins and minerals it will go into 'starvation mode' and store whatever it can.

According to a body-builder who has some great tips across the whole range of weight loss (fat) and gain (muscle), exercise (including form) and nutrition, the more you weigh, the more you need to eat in order to steadily lose fat without losing all of your muscle. It's all really down-to-earth stuff, no fads, no 'load up on this' etc etc, it's just about good nutrition and practice. He's a funny guy too, he takes the piss out of all of the gimmick, 10lbs in a week exercise machines and all the other stuff like that.


He breaks it down into a table here: http://fitness.scoobysworkshop.com/6packabs.htm

If you're interested in losing weight without starving yourself or burning muscle, check it out.



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Re: Americans still getting fat
« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2009, 10:06:19 PM »
The fatter humans get the more attractive we will be to highly advanced predatory ETs! It's like the government...man...they are herding us like cattle! Run for the hills and become anorexic.
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