Nothing better than a warm welcome

[Lusche]

Addendum: I pondered on this a bit. I wonder if they felt you came over for the cheap perk rides instead of your stated goal to help. Could certainly appear that way.

Would that matter? Where is the difference? I came over and started to defend his fields, shooting down his enemies in droves. Ain't that help?

[Noir]

Would that matter? Where is the difference? I came over and started to defend his fields, shooting down his enemies in droves. Ain't that help?

no you are stealing his perks now 

[Lusche]

no you are stealing his perks now 

No.

I get my perks from killing enemy planes.

This guy's squad get their perks from base captures & winning the war resets 

We don't compete in any way 

[SmokinLoon]

I dont mind and have no issues with those players or squads that rotate each tour.  What annoys me are those fellas that do it on a daily basis.  They truely are the defination of "self serving", imo.         

[Lusche]

I dont mind and have no issues with those players or squads that rotate each tour.  What annoys me are those fellas that do it on a daily basis.  They truely are the defination of "self serving", imo.         

And what exactly "annoys" you?

Just for the record - 2 tours ago I was almost exclusively flying bish, last tour I was switching several times a day and this tour i haven't decided on my "style" yet.

[71313]

that;s amazing, the way knight get overrun in every arena

[crazyivan]

Kill the SITH !

[Getback]

Would that matter? Where is the difference? I came over and started to defend his fields, shooting down his enemies in droves. Ain't that help?

Thought of that too. To me it doesn't matter. Same result, you kill bad guys. But maybe it's the principle or perhaps a degree of difference. Did you come over for the cheaper perk planes? If so maybe it's viewed as more of a self interest than I want to help the Knights. However, same result. Except maybe you had more fun. Self interest is not a bad thing. It allows you to enjoy the game the way you want. If you didn't do that you would probably not enjoy the game.

[xbrit]

Three of us from Most Wanted switched to Nit last night to do our little part in trying to even the fight out, had fun flying with Lute and some newb called wrag. We were made to feel very wellcome, apart from one guy who pm'd me to ask what was wrong with our squad, three of the guys were afk for ever so never made the switch. This guy was trying to get something going over the fact that not all switched, strange because not 20 minutes earlier the same guy had been on 200 asking for people to switch to amke it even.
BTW Lute that smell was only when wrag moved his legs !!

[moot]

Thought of that too. To me it doesn't matter. Same result, you kill bad guys. But maybe it's the principle or perhaps a degree of difference. Did you come over for the cheaper perk planes? If so maybe it's viewed as more of a self interest than I want to help the Knights. However, same result. Except maybe you had more fun. Self interest is not a bad thing. It allows you to enjoy the game the way you want. If you didn't do that you would probably not enjoy the game.

Yeah as if everyone was playing out of anything else but self interest in having fun however they please.

I dont mind and have no issues with those players or squads that rotate each tour.  What annoys me are those fellas that do it on a daily basis.  They truely are the defination of "self serving", imo.         

Self serving to the point of being the best agents of country balancing.  As opposed to opposing even fights by sticking to the higher number countries because it doesn't respect some completely random arbitrary, like "1 switch per day only".

[stodd]

I dont mind and have no issues with those players or squads that rotate each tour.  What annoys me are those fellas that do it on a daily basis.  They truely are the defination of "self serving", imo.         

Ya those dang spiez should be shot!!!!

[mtnman]

I'll admit to switching sides purely out of self-interest. 

I look at two things when I log on.  One, who has the lowest numbers.  I switch to the side with the lowest numbers before I even bother to lift.  Second, I look for good fights.  If I find I can't find any decent fights on the side with the lowest numbers (rare, but it does happen) I switch to the side with the second-lowest numbers as soon as my hour is up.  It isn't at all abnormal for me to fly for two different teams the same night.

I can't say I do it for easy perks.  I have so many I really don't need any more.  I can't say I do it for low-cost perk planes either.  Again, I have enough perks to fly any perk plane I want, any time I want, regardless of cost (my favorite is free, anyway).  And I can't say I do it due to losing the ability to fly the plane I want, because I seldom see that (no doubt due to flying for the lowest-number team).

I also can't say I do it because I want to help any team in any way, because I don't.  I couldn't care less what state the "war" is in, or who's winning or losing.  I'm only playing to shoot the red guys down.  No more, no less.

If I see any gain/advantage to switching as I do, it's simply that there are more targets to choose from, with far less of an issue finding multiple targets that I can have all to myself.  I don't like sharing.  Often as not, I'll break out of a fight if another friendly joins in, or fly right past a bad guy if I think a friendly will jump in before I can finish the fight.

So, yea, I switch because it suits my idea of fun, and it's all in my own interest.  Nobody elses...

[Guppy35]

I dont mind and have no issues with those players or squads that rotate each tour.  What annoys me are those fellas that do it on a daily basis.  They truely are the defination of "self serving", imo.         

If evening the fight is self serving, then the 80th and some other squads are guilty as charged.  I have to check each time I log on to see which country I'm on as I really don't pay attention to it beyond the numbers.   I don't want to win the 'war' as there is no war.  One airfield looks like the next to me.  They are just a means to an end for me, which is to fight other cartoon airplanes.

If you wish to win the 'war', you go for it.  I hope you like to do it by fighting other players, not just overwhelming hordes, or avoiding the fight and taking the path of least resistance.

The great prize an online flight sim provides is the chance to test our cartoon pilot abilities against other cartoon pilots.  If just beating the game for points is what I wanted to do, I'd fly offline missions, dig out the old copy of EAW or Aces over Europe and have at it.

And no I don't fly perk rides or care about points.   I do care about those fights that happen every so often where my imagination connects with the history I've read, and I feel like I've been there, if even in only a cartoon fighter pilot kinda way.

[Cajunn]

I'll admit to switching sides purely out of self-interest. 

I look at two things when I log on.  One, who has the lowest numbers.  I switch to the side with the lowest numbers before I even bother to lift.  Second, I look for good fights.  If I find I can't find any decent fights on the side with the lowest numbers (rare, but it does happen) I switch to the side with the second-lowest numbers as soon as my hour is up.  It isn't at all abnormal for me to fly for two different teams the same night.

I can't say I do it for easy perks.  I have so many I really don't need any more.  I can't say I do it for low-cost perk planes either.  Again, I have enough perks to fly any perk plane I want, any time I want, regardless of cost (my favorite is free, anyway).  And I can't say I do it due to losing the ability to fly the plane I want, because I seldom see that (no doubt due to flying for the lowest-number team).

I also can't say I do it because I want to help any team in any way, because I don't.  I couldn't care less what state the "war" is in, or who's winning or losing.  I'm only playing to shoot the red guys down.  No more, no less.

If I see any gain/advantage to switching as I do, it's simply that there are more targets to choose from, with far less of an issue finding multiple targets that I can have all to myself.  I don't like sharing.  Often as not, I'll break out of a fight if another friendly joins in, or fly right past a bad guy if I think a friendly will jump in before I can finish the fight.

So, yea, I switch because it suits my idea of fun, and it's all in my own interest.  Nobody elses...

First off  Mtnman:
             I understand why you guys switch and I have no problems with it at all. And I'm only asking this as a question and not assuming anything, but doesn't that get a little boring after a while also. And I mean this in a way like lets say for example: I'm thinking after playing for so long like some of you guys, you pretty much have mastered most aspects of virtual ACM and I like a good 1vs1 sometimes, but to just look for that would get a little dry IMO. Sometimes I like to just suit up, strap in, make sure the life insurance policy is paid up and dive into a fur ball and let the hair go with the hide and live it up and cut up and just have a good time with my friends that are on. And getting shot down or watching a friend turn into a little puff of smoke is part of the fun, and we all laugh about it and its no big deal. Sometime I like dropping bombs and sometimes I like shooting red guys with a tank or Wirb, sometimes I like being part of a horde and sometimes I like defending against the horde. So i guess what I'm getting at is wouldn't it be a little more fun with variety, as to just doing the same thing day in and day out with so many different aspects of the game available.

[Lusche]

I have pondered about the "self-serving" aspect a bit:

In the end, no matter if we switch or stay loayal, it's almost for everyone at everytime for purely selfish reasons.

Fun.

Someone has more fun to place the fight above anything else, thus switching all the time. Someone is in for that special comradery he is feeling when fighting for "his" chesspiece day in and day out for years, enjoing the good times of arena domination as well as fighting his way through the bad days of getting horded.

In both cases, players do it for getting the most fun out of it.

Someone sticking to a side "just because", whoe doesn't really enjoy what he's doing, who is nothing but fed up with the "war" and his virtual countrymen, is doing something wrong. He hasn't understood the concept of playing a game opposed to living a real life.



Another aspect: Two days ago, I was dropping in to EW arena. I immediately looked at countrystatus & map and found 6(!) Bishops attacking a Rook base, Rooks had (!)player on that moment. SOAR was rolling bases again.
I was selfish enough to switch to rooks the very moment. But was that more selfish & self catering as memebers a of a squad always using their numbers to roll bases without any opposition. EW is always low on people, and when this squad is having their squad nights or something they outnumber both opposing countries together by a factor 2 to 5.
(Of course they say it's all about country loyalty)