Please....

[AKDejaVu]

True Love:
 

[brady]

It is good to want thing's, trust me I know....

[Fester']

agreed

p40 all the way

[juzz]

What's the point of an AVG fighter when not a single one of it's historical adversaries is featured yet?  

[Nefarious]

Originally posted by juzz:
What's the point of an AVG fighter when not a single one of it's historical adversaries is featured yet?  

Good point Juzz. But It wouldnt be to hard to make one of them. A6M2 Model 21 would be an easy variant of the zeke to make.First a Wieght Adjustment, Take the 1x13mm out of the zeke's cowling and replace with 1x7.7mm and modify the exhaust and wings and add a snazzy grey paint scheme and BAM! early war zeke!  

But if they did add a P40 lets see an AVG scheme plus a Brit Desert scheme as well!

[funkedup]

AVG never met the Zero in combat.

Historical opponents of the AVG:
Ki-21
Ki-27
Ki-43
Ki-45
Ki-48

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[Buzzbait]

S!

Better to make a late model Kittyhawk.  It already has the historical matchup of the 109F4, G2 and 190A5.

[Nefarious]

I remember reading somwhere that Chenault (sp) was trying to warn the Air Force about the new Super Plane "Zero" and No one took his warning.

So I think If Chenault new about it I think the AVG new about it, but Im not sure.

[juzz]

That's because Chennault was working with the Chinese AF. They encountered the Zero(and got whipped by it), but the AVG did not.

[GRUNHERZ]

Yep Chenault heard about the Zero from the Chinese AF guys.

[popeye]

Gets my vote.

[skernsk]

It'll be in 1.08.....<rumor installed >

[Widewing]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
Yep Chenault heard about the Zero from the Chinese AF guys.

I believe that the Zero's encountered in China were the A6M1, which were undergoing combat testing. One of these crash-landed and Chennault was able to examine the aircraft (circa 1940).

Those Curtiss P-40/Tomahawks sold to China were unusual in that they were not P-40Bs, nor P-40Cs. In fact, they were not true Tomahawk IIBs either. They were a strange hybrid built by Curtiss using existing over-stocks of parts because the contract with China was extremely vague as to detailed specifications. Should anyone be interested, I can go into greater detail on these aircraft. Back in 1999, after exhaustive research, I was finally able to define the aircraft and resolve the ongoing debate as to the actual model flown by the AVG. Even Dan Ford, recent chronicler of the AVG, has signed on the findings.

My regards,

Widewing

[EDO43]

There were only two A6M1's constructed, both of which were test airframes.  Early war Zero's that operated in China were the A6M2 model 11. Early war means 1937-39/40 area, not 41-43.  By the time of Pearl Harbor, the A6M2 model 21 (later changed to A6M2b) was in service.  The number after the designation A6M2 indicates the number of engine and airframe modifications (pronounced one-one or two-one, etc.) respectively.  Thus, an A6M2 model 21 had two engine changes (mods) and one airframe change.

Later on, the model designation was dropped and zero's were referred to as just plain A6M5 or A6M5 ko, otsu or hei; a,b and c respectively.  Incidentally, the A6M2 and A6M5 were on the production lines at the same time, although by different manufacturers.  Can't remember if it was Nakajima or Mitsubishi that kept the A6M2 production going.

My references indicate that the AVG did use P-40B's and C's but also had a number of those strange hybrid birds called H-81's I believe.

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[Widewing]

[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: Widewing ]