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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2009, 04:22:37 AM »
Oh how true.... :cool:

Just today, the first day of the new Tour, I decided to try out a 262. Biiiiig mistake!! :rolleyes:


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well, you should do it like in any other planes, just fly it right and it willwork for you

a good flown 262 is untouchable, like it was in RL. most were killed due the takeoff or the landing, but not in 20000ft
so it is also in AH. Its great fun to go up with 3 squadies in a 262, if youre lucky you may find a b17 raid  :x  :D


- just some hints:
- stay allways over 280mph, the accelaration is not that good to escape in all cases
- design a hard deck at 10000ft, just to have the last option for an escape dive
- dont pull to much G forces otherwise you might lose your wings
- setup the convergence up to 400-600
- attack with speeeeeeeed!!! 550-580 is perfect! compression comes around 600-620, belonging to your alt
- fly B&Z all days!
- landing speed is around 180 all flyps out at the beginning of the runway, if you have more than 200mph, circle around, you will lose the 262, because you need a long runway to slow it down
- first nothch flaps down around 310 mph when being around 5k of the base
- when B&Z full throttle back if you was on lvl running before (400mph)
- discover the compression by using TRIM!!!! throttle 0%!!!!!!


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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2009, 05:06:23 AM »
Generally good tips but I do not agree with this one:

- design a hard deck at 10000ft, just to have the last option for an escape dive


10K isn't necessary, and actually it deprives you lot of kill opportunities. For getting additional steam, 5k is more than enough. And if you keep your speed & E up, you can even stay low on the deck for some very nasty low surprise attacks especially around enemy bases, flying at 500mph, hiding your icon and zooming up in the blind sector of your careless victim.

Things I would like to add:

- Convergence: I found myself having most success with using a "shotgun" convergence of 250 & 650, which can be very helpful against hard evading enemy fighters

- Buffs: speed alone doesn't help you against buff gunners. Since the 262 was updated, it's even more suspectible to damage than before. Use your speed not only to catch up, but to get into a favorable attack position like you should do in any prop fighter.

- Fighters: don't forget - you are having a very good roll rate at high speeds and a pretty good instantenous turn rate. Use it!

- Landing: Before taking a 262 up for the first time in the MA, practice landing with 1(!) engine. If you find yourself too low/slow during approach with 1 engine and throttle up you may end flipping on your back & crashing. And it's easy to lose an engine, most of the time I rtb that way ;)

- Fuel consumption: Get to 10k, accelerate, then cut RPMs to 8000 or even less. You greatly enhance your range at 450mph, but are still fast enough to evade most interception attempts easily.


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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2009, 06:40:43 AM »
Landing speed is NOT 180mph!

Just like in RL, use the rudder and slip to bleed speed. Otherwise the beast won't slow down very well. Second, with two engines running, shoot for about 150 mph on final and touch down around 110 mph.  With only one engine running, once you get below V2 (no, Virginia, V2 is not a vehicle base ;) ), you're not climbing out again. So if you're single engine, keep it up to about 185 mph until you have the runway made, then idle back using slips to bleed any excess speed. Landing is actually not that much different than the 190. Just takes a little getting used to.The rudder is your friend. (I have brought the bird home missing both outboard wing panels and ailerons)

Take 100%fuel. You low on gas the moment you start up the engines. In cruise and during the battle, the E6B is also your friend. Use it.

HT modeled the takeoff very nicely in the 262. Lock the brakes and run her up to max RPM. Brakes off and two notches of flaps the bird lifts off on her own around 110 mph. Bring up the gear and one notch of flaps on takeoff. Accelerate to 185 mph while clearing any obstacles. When clear (and 185 mph or above), bring out the last notch. Accelerate to 300-310 for the climb.
You can bring out the last notch of flaps early, but be ready for some serious trim changes if you do...in other words, don't let the ground rise up and smite thee.

The 262 is also quite forgiving in some regions of the flight envelope. Other times, however, she will bite you. Treat her with respect.

Speed and altitude are life. Period.

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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2009, 10:25:13 AM »
262 is a "straight-up"   K I L L E R

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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2009, 10:48:18 AM »
And if you keep your speed & E up, you can even stay low on the deck for some very nasty low surprise attacks especially around enemy bases, flying at 500mph, hiding your icon and zooming up in the blind sector of your careless victim.

This is a lot of fun with a slight variation thrown in as a cherry on top.  I haven't done it in a while though, thanks for the reminder.  I like to fly in NOE to get the base to flash.  Fly around to the back side of the base staying low and icon range away from the base (opposite side from the field that they think you are coming from).  The 262 is so fast they think you are still heading in to their base and they are almost always looking for you in the direction of your base.  You can slide back around the base in the blink of an eye and catch them off guard.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but I get some satisfaction watching their plane flop around right before they break if they do see me coming in.  It indicates they didn't expect a 262.   :devil
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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2009, 11:12:36 AM »
- Convergence: I found myself having most success with using a "shotgun" convergence of 250 & 650, which can be very helpful against hard evading enemy fighters

cunning idea, will be trying this :aok

edit: 6-7000rpm at 10k is good for about an hour at 400mph ;)
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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2009, 02:07:19 AM »
- Landing: Before taking a 262 up for the first time in the MA, practice landing with 1(!) engine. If you find yourself too low/slow during approach with 1 engine and throttle up you may end flipping on your back & crashing. And it's easy to lose an engine, most of the time I rtb that way ;)

I'd like to add that it's best to immediately leave the area and shut down the engine when you get an oil leak. Flying at speed on one engine isn't all that hard, so save it for final approach.

As you're getting close to the point of no return fire up the other engine, even if it's idle. That way you can slam the throttles forward without the yawing motion of a one-engined bird.
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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2009, 09:56:35 AM »
Maybe we should start a 262 thread but I was wondering.  Do you guys keep that bird full throttle or do you fluctuate it?  Response is so slow I dont know why I bother.
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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2009, 10:01:34 AM »
Maybe we should start a 262 thread but I was wondering.  Do you guys keep that bird full throttle or do you fluctuate it?  Response is so slow I dont know why I bother.

Keeping full throttle = losing the plane (sooner or later).
You have to work the throttle, like you have to in most planes. In some ways it's even more essential, as it's very easy to overspeed the 262 in a dive.
Response time is slow, but you will get used to it. You have to think just a bit ahead.
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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2009, 10:41:21 AM »
You have to fight other planes and not bases.
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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2009, 03:33:44 PM »
IMO Mossi and 190A8 are the best perk farmers in the LWs. Its very easy to get 30-50 perks per sortie with them if you target 5-10 ENY planes.

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Re: cant fly a 262
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2009, 03:42:27 PM »
<-------thinks 262 flys better with wing tips missing  :D
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