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Offline Ex-jazz

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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2009, 02:28:08 PM »
It's been my experience that all the Hurricanes are nothing more than lame non-contenders.


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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2009, 02:46:01 PM »

If you win, it's a good fight. 

Honestly, this nonsense that if you don't saddle of on their six or let the fight drag out for 10 minutes, it's not a good fight.  It's not my fault the other guy sucks so bad that he can't put forth a fight that lasts more than 10 seconds.


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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2009, 02:46:46 PM »
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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2009, 02:54:30 PM »
  . Take away altitude and I find Hurricanes are no more dangerous than a 110 or some other HO machine.


Then you've never fought someone that knows how to fly the 110.
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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2009, 03:02:40 PM »

Then you've never fought someone that knows how to fly the 110.

Strip is right, a 110 isn't really all that dangerous at all.  Only time it's really a threat is if you get bounced unaware by one.  Given pilots of equal skill, the 110 driver will lose against a fighter.  Only way the fighter would lose is if the pilot made a mistake.  It's like the A-20, sure there are some guys that can do some nice things in it but up against some of the same skill in a fighter, the A-20 is going to lose most of the time.


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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2009, 03:43:53 PM »
How can a fight be good if it ends in ten seconds?


If you win, it's a good fight. 

Honestly, this nonsense that if you don't saddle of on their six or let the fight drag out for 10 minutes, it's not a good fight.  It's not my fault the other guy sucks so bad that he can't put forth a fight that lasts more than 10 seconds.


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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2009, 07:46:34 PM »
Strip is right, a 110 isn't really all that dangerous at all.  Only time it's really a threat is if you get bounced unaware by one.  Given pilots of equal skill, the 110 driver will lose against a fighter.  Only way the fighter would lose is if the pilot made a mistake.  It's like the A-20, sure there are some guys that can do some nice things in it but up against some of the same skill in a fighter, the A-20 is going to lose most of the time.


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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2009, 08:50:35 PM »
I have met your 110 Larry....its not hard to stay alive.

Avoid the lame negative G move or some other reversal and its easy to kill.

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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2009, 09:01:26 PM »
the 110 is not an easy kill unless the pilot is nice enough not to take the first ho he gets on you.
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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2009, 09:09:59 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2009, 09:16:38 PM »
the 110 is not an easy kill unless the pilot is nice enough not to take the first ho he gets on you.

Even a good HO tard will only get hits on me 1 in 20 (or more) tries....even less will be lethal. Any plane with more than 6 .50s is dangerous in a HO if your complacent. A 110 has two moves.....headon and overshoot verses most fighters. Avoid them and its over....same with Hurricane.

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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2009, 09:21:58 PM »
 Actualy I mean in a straight up duel. Even a spitfire mkVIII will often not be able to pull an instant merge turn much quicker than the 110. So you most like are going to get a second merge coming head to head, possibly a third or fourth before the 110 loses possition. Any of those turns after merge could end in a 30mm for the spit.
 
 If the 110 is attacking then the spitfire is either going to die straight away, or more likely reverse the attack and win comfortably. If the 110 is in defence the spit will win comfortably also in most cases.

 But with a co-alt, head on merge, it's up to the 110 to the 110 if its going to be a ho fight. The 110 has the power to say 'hey, lets clean merge this time again' or 'hey, im going to blast you and i dont care if you fire your pea shooters back at me'.
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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2009, 09:26:23 PM »
Actualy I mean in a straight up duel. Even a spitfire mkVIII will often not be able to pull an instant merge turn much quicker than the 110. So you most like are going to get a second merge coming head to head, possibly a third or fourth before the 110 loses possition. Any of those turns after merge could end in a 30mm for the spit.
 
 If the 110 is attacking then the spitfire is either going to die straight away, or more likely reverse the attack and win comfortably. If the 110 is in defence the spit will win comfortably also in most cases.

 But with a co-alt, head on merge, it's up to the 110 to the 110 if its going to be a ho fight. The 110 has the power to say 'hey, lets clean merge this time again' or 'hey, im going to blast you and i dont care if you fire your pea shooters back at me'.

Simple solution.....avoid headon and do a slow zoom climb leaving the 110 in your wake. Get above him and wear him down into a situation where he cant HO. I treat hurricanes and 110s the same in the same manner.

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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2009, 10:23:34 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: What is the best manuver in a Hurricane IIC
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2009, 10:29:52 PM »
See Rule #4

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