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Offline B4Buster

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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2009, 07:23:27 AM »
+1 on the plane. Time to see some diversity.

As far as the N1K goes. I try and say out N-1-K too. Really doesn't take any longer than saying "Nikki"

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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 02:02:59 PM »
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Armament Suite:
1 x 20mm cannon (forward firing)
2 x 12.7mm machine guns in nose position
1 x 7.92mm machine gun in rear cockpit position

OPTIONAL:

2 x 551lb bombs carried underwing


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actually here is the correct armamnet loadout:

Armament


Ko: 1 × 20 mm, 2 × 12.7 mm (.50 in), 2 × 7.92 mm (.312 in)
Otsu: 1 × 37 mm (1.46 in), 2 × 12.7 mm (.50 in), 1 × 7.92 mm (.312 in)
Hei: 1 × 37 mm (1.46 in), 1 × 20 mm, 1 × 7.92 mm (.312 in)
Tei: 1 × 37 mm (1.46 in), 2 × 20 mm
Bo: 1 × 40 mm (1.57 in)


 I would love to see it added

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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 02:29:08 PM »
But, but, it's an extra syllable..........  :D

+1 on the plane. Time to see some diversity.

As far as the N1K goes. I try and say out N-1-K too. Really doesn't take any longer than saying "Nikki"


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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2009, 02:29:17 PM »
It would be a nice addition but it would be chewed to bits by regular fighters.  The "Nick" was the only Japanese plane the P-38 could easily out turn.


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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2009, 02:37:03 PM »
It would be a nice addition but it would be chewed to bits by regular fighters.  The "Nick" was the only Japanese plane the P-38 could easily out turn.


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Like a 110?

I'd love to see it added, with 2x20mm and 1x37mm it might be a good bomber killer
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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2009, 02:47:29 PM »
It would be a nice addition but it would be chewed to bits by regular fighters.  The "Nick" was the only Japanese plane the P-38 could easily out turn.


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Its wing loading is far, far, far lower than the P-38's.  Where do you get that the P-38 easily out turned it?
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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2009, 05:25:43 PM »
Its wing loading is far, far, far lower than the P-38's.  Where do you get that the P-38 easily out turned it?

From Combat Tactics in the Southwest Pacific Area, written by Maj. Thomas B. McGuire, Jr. in 1944.

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Nick - There haven't been many of these twin-engine fighters in this area and with their poor performance they are becoming scarcer as P-38 pilots and others prove that this is one Japanese fighter they can out-turn, out-run, and out-climb. The NICK is structurally strong and there will be some difficulty in diving away, but then it won't be necessary unless he gets close on your tail.

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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2009, 05:37:57 PM »
I wonder how that was determined and if it is correct?  Maybe the Ki-45 had very heavy elevators.
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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2009, 05:49:13 PM »
Like a 110?

I'd love to see it added, with 2x20mm and 1x37mm it might be a good bomber killer

It would be, from reports that I've read the Nick was a successful night fighter against Allied bombers.


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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2009, 05:52:48 PM »
I wonder how that was determined and if it is correct?  Maybe the Ki-45 had very heavy elevators.

Maybe from his own and other P-38 drivers experience in fighting against the Nick as well as Allied testing of captured models.

If anyone hasn't read it yet, I do recommend reading Combat Tactics in the Southwest Pacific Area.  It has good information about the capabilities of certain Japanese aircraft as well as tactics, especially pertaining to a P-38 matchup.


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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2009, 07:15:05 PM »
Just be careful how you interpret "out turn".  I doubt McGuire was talking about a stall fight...
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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2009, 07:36:10 PM »
Just be careful how you interpret "out turn".  I doubt McGuire was talking about a stall fight...

I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that most in here know that 'out turning' doesn't always apply to a lufberry turn fight.  YMMV.


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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2009, 07:39:39 PM »
I'll accept that for the three names listed so far in the discussion, but there's always that guy that sees something like that and runs with it.   :aok
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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2009, 10:53:16 PM »
i don't like using people names for planes. i like to fly the ki-84, find it hard calling it a frank. george sounds more absurd.
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Re: Nice addition for the Japaneese planeset. Kawasaki Ki-45
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2009, 12:47:06 AM »
stran,

Then use the Japanese names.  The "Frank" was the Ki-84 Hayate which means "Gale" (as in the storm) and the "George" was the N1K Shiden which means "Violet Lightning".  We actually have a "George 21" N1K2-J Shiden-Kai in AH.
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