NCAA Boycots South Carolina

[Saxman]

NCAA Boycots South Carolina

Citing unresolved disputes over use of the "Confederate Flag"  in South Carolina, the NCAA will be moving three upcoming baseball tournaments.

What I find ironic about this whole thing is that NEITHER side seems to realize that the flag they're squabbling over ISN'T EVEN AN ACTUAL CONFEDERATE FLAG.

[Bodhi]

It's typical of the apologists in this country trying to force their views on others of the nation.

If South Carolina had some balls, they'd kick the NCAA out of the state and bar them from doing any business there.  The NCAA needs to remember that they are a sports agency, not a political arena.

[Reaper90]

NCAA Boycots South Carolina

Citing unresolved disputes over use of the "Confederate Flag"  in South Carolina, the NCAA will be moving three upcoming baseball tournaments.

What I find ironic about this whole thing is that NEITHER side seems to realize that the flag they're squabbling over ISN'T EVEN AN ACTUAL CONFEDERATE FLAG.

Actually, it's the Confederate Naval Jack. The Confederate battle flag was square, not rectangular.

I'm not sure why that flag is flown, and quite frankly think that if they(we) want to fly the flag to remember and pay respects to the Confederacy, for whatever reason, it should be the actual flag of the Confederate governament. This flag has never been misused by a hate group and as such IMO should be a fitting compromise.

edit- I'm in SC and am perfectly fine with 1) our flags, all of 'em, 2)our history, and 3)telling the NCAA to go F off. 

[Reschke]

Stupid crap is what that is man....

[Saxman]

Actually, it's the Confederate Naval Jack. The Confederate battle flag was square, not rectangular.

I'm not sure why that flag is flown, and quite frankly think that if they(we) want to fly the flag to remember and pay respects to the Confederacy, for whatever reason, it should be the actual flag of the Confederate governament. This flag has never been misused by a hate group and as such IMO should be a fitting compromise.

edit- I'm in SC and am perfectly fine with 1) our flags, all of 'em, 2)our history, and 3)telling the NCAA to go F off. 

It's not EVEN the naval jack. The Naval Jack used a lighter blue (with flags, the colors involved DO MATTER). The flag being argued over is a 20th Century design, pure and simple.

Here's the naval jack:



Here's the flag being argued over:



And be careful about the use of the national flags. The second and third flags used the Army of Northern Virginia Battle Flag in the canton.

[Reaper90]

I stand corrected, I wasn't aware of the color difference.

This is the flag I was referring to:

[Vudak]

SC, baseball sucks anyways.  Keep your flag and your pride

[Raptor]

Sucks for SC because they just built a shiny new baseball stadium

[Shuffler]

Interesting to see ignorance at the college level.

Also interesting some can be so proud of their history and heritage while others are punished for such.

[Saxman]

I stand corrected, I wasn't aware of the color difference.

This is the flag I was referring to:

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That's the first national flag, which I'm sure wouldn't raise the same stink as the ANV battle flag, (true) Navy Jack, or the second and third national flags, mostly because it's not the flag that everyone associates with the Confederacy.

[Masherbrum]

Interesting to see ignorance at the college level.

Also interesting some can be so proud of their history and heritage while others are punished for such.

QFT.   

[Reaper90]

Interesting to see ignorance at the college level.

Also interesting some can be so proud of their history and heritage while others are punished for such.

History books are written by the victors, my friend. I have a very good friend who is a history prof at the U of Wyoming. Civil war is her real love (odd, because she's originally from Canada) and just loves the look on the faces of her students when she unravels all of the fiction they have been taught all of their lives concerning the civil war, slavery, etc.

Another relevant point concerning history and how it is taught with respects to government schools.... a had another friend when I used to live in Columbia who was a grad student at the time... he's Japanese by origin, and spent most of his life there. According to him, they were taught in school that the US forced them into war, nothing was ever mentioned of China or Pearl Harbor, and we had no provocation or reason for dropping the atomic bombs.

[Shuffler]

History books are written by the victors, my friend. I have a very good friend who is a history prof at the U of Wyoming. Civil war is her real love (odd, because she's originally from Canada) and just loves the look on the faces of her students when she unravels all of the fiction they have been taught all of their lives concerning the civil war, slavery, etc.

Another relevant point concerning history and how it is taught with respects to government schools.... a had another friend when I used to live in Columbia who was a grad student at the time... he's Japanese by origin, and spent most of his life there. According to him, they were taught in school that the US forced them into war, nothing was ever mentioned of China or Pearl Harbor, and we had no provocation or reason for dropping the atomic bombs.

True.... so what does that have to do with college games. That is my point.

[Masherbrum]

History books are written by the victors, my friend. I have a very good friend who is a history prof at the U of Wyoming. Civil war is her real love (odd, because she's originally from Canada) and just loves the look on the faces of her students when she unravels all of the fiction they have been taught all of their lives concerning the civil war, slavery, etc.

Another relevant point concerning history and how it is taught with respects to government schools.... a had another friend when I used to live in Columbia who was a grad student at the time... he's Japanese by origin, and spent most of his life there. According to him, they were taught in school that the US forced them into war, nothing was ever mentioned of China or Pearl Harbor, and we had no provocation or reason for dropping the atomic bombs.

What does this have to with the Civil War?   Or the NCAA?

[oakranger]

Wow, the South Carolina flag has been a issue for a long time (8-10 years i believe).  All this time the state had flown that flag for a centuries and now people find it offensive.  People need to understand that the confederate flag dose not symbol "slavery" (if that is what the issue is about).