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Offline RELIC

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Fighter Scoring Issue
« on: July 07, 2009, 04:49:53 PM »
Looking at the fighter rankings for the last camp, Late War Tour 113, is confusing.  Shawk also posted on this but never included any data for review.  Before I continue, let me stress this post is not intended to drag any squad through the mud.  My issue is with what I perceive to be a bug in the Fighter rankings and nothing else.  For this reason I will not name any of the squads involved and I apologize if I step on any toes – it is not my intent.

The stats for the #1 ranked Fighter squad:
Category     Score     Rank
K/D             1.32        133
K/S             0.91        113
K/H             5.51        100
Hit%           5.54        133
Points     220,582         29

#2 Squad disbanded, so looking at #3 in Fighter:
Category     Score     Rank
K/D              3.10        26
K/S              1.95        14
K/H              10.30       7
Hit%             8.91        26
Points      156,298        50

It seems to me that the squad ranked #3 should be ranked higher than the squad at #1.  Is it because “Points” is given MUCH more significance in the scoring?

Looking at the squad ranked next at #4:
Category     Score     Rank
K/D              1.12        171
K/S              0.67        196
K/H              5.04        134
Hit%            4.82        186
Points       137,599       65

Now I’m really lost so I looked up a squad that I know has some extremely good sticks.  They were ranked #41:
Category     Score     Rank
K/D             1.31        135
K/S             1.03        84
K/H             6.44        58
Hit%           6.06        106
Points      228,558       26

It seems to me the squad ranked #41 did better in every section than the squad ranked #4.  In fact, if you add the rankings together and divide by the number of scoring sections (five), they should be ranked higher than the squad at #1.  The other rankings, Bomber Attack etc. seem to be fine.
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 02:31:19 AM »
I have no clue but doesn't the amount of squad members factor into this ?

Edit
had a quick look tour 113 fighter squad rank

1) 30 members 4 not active that tour ......total hours 865

3) 20 members 10 not active ....total hours 174

41) 31 members 10 not active ...total hors  511
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 02:52:37 AM by LYNX »

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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 05:57:58 AM »
I would like this clarified by HTC. As CO of a squad of around 25 (Arn't I magnificant  :D)  I would like us to aim for the top 10 in these categories. If they are not transparent and fare what would be the point.

I hope this can be sorted out.
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 09:00:43 AM »
I sure hope this score thing can be resolved. This game would suck without it. :cry

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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 10:18:48 AM »
If its going to be enabled it ought to:

1) Make sense

2) Reflect something besides how well an indivudual can solve puzzles
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 10:24:48 AM »
The scoring/rank system has always been questionable. It is absolutely meaningless. The game play would most certainly improve if it was removed.
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 10:40:38 AM »
The scoring/rank system has always been questionable. It is absolutely meaningless. The game play would most certainly improve if it was removed.

I would love to see what pacerr and shawk have to say about this. :O
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 10:46:28 AM »
The game play would most certainly improve if it (rank) was removed.
If so, how then to settle/determine the CV control privilidge?  Seems to me that, in MW at least, rank is in many cases sought by those who simply wish to control the CV for strategic reasons.
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 10:56:38 AM »
Shawk already posted some time ago that the Fighter rankings seemed wrong.

Whether or not gameplay would be improved if the scoring system was removed is not the point of my post and I don't want to go down that road - that topic has been covered many times before in other posts.  I'd simply like to know how the different sections in the Fighter score are combined to create the overall Fighter ranking.  What I'm seeing here isn't making sense.

I'm hoping someone can explain the calculations involved OR we can get an acknowledgement of a bug in the Fighter rankings.
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2009, 11:01:47 AM »
If its going to be enabled it ought to:

1) Make sense

2) Reflect something besides how well an indivudual can solve puzzles

 :rofl

That's a good one, right there  :lol
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2009, 11:01:57 AM »
The scoring/rank system has always been questionable. It is absolutely meaningless. The game play would most certainly improve if it was removed.

I think the score HAS been removed in MW and EW arenas this tour.

Haven't they?
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2009, 11:12:44 AM »
I think the score HAS been removed in MW and EW arenas this tour.

Haven't they?

Smells more like a bug to me ;)

Not even any stats to be found there. No way I will fly any arena if I can't even look up the stats...
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2009, 11:25:16 AM »
Smells more like a bug to me ;)

Not even any stats to be found there. No way I will fly any arena if I can't even look up the stats...

Damn the stats!

I've been havin a blast defending bases from the Soar crowd etc. in EW.

Most fun I've had in a long time in this game.

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Why would the stats matter, as long as you were having a good time??
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 11:27:11 AM by 1Boner »
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 11:28:39 AM »
Damn the stats!

I've been havin a blast defending bases from the Soar crowd etc. in EW.

Most fun I've had in a long time in this game.

(I think they all hate me!)

Why would the stats matter, as long as you were having a good time??

Stats are part of having a good time for me.

I want too see what i killed. In which planes I scored, and which targets. I want to track my hit%, K/S, K/D. I want to see how different rides influence those values. I want to see how different models fare against each other. I like to see how other players do.
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Re: Fighter Scoring Issue
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2009, 11:32:59 AM »
Stats are part of having a good time for me.

To each there own. :salute

Its a big game, plenty of room for everybody.
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