Author Topic: Vehicle Request (Read 845 times)

Voss · « **on:** January 20, 2001, 02:06:00 AM »

M26 Pershing!

Served in later part WWII. Slapped German armor with its 90mm gun! Delivered in larger numbers then the CHOG.

Voss 13th T.A.S.

brady · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2001, 02:44:00 AM »

Cool tank,but we have to much US stuff as it is, A King tiger or a panther would be cool though

Or better yet a T34 for the Russians who don't have much stuff in the game. Oh and if memory serves only 7 were actually in combat in Europe.

Brady

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Jigster · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2001, 04:22:00 AM »

Bah the M4A3E2-76 was better then the Pershing. @ 230 made, shame they didn't make more E2's.

A six inch cast turrent is nothing to sneeze at when the opposition is hurling 88's and HV 75's at you

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Pongo · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2001, 12:18:00 PM »

Even the americans rated the Pershing inferior to a Panther for Tank vs Tank.
Its just a rounded Tiger 1 basically. Only 3 years later.

Voss · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2001, 01:56:00 PM »

It's not a matter of how it stacks up against the Panther. The point is that it is a tool more closely matched to the German tanks than the Sherman. Plus, it has a gun that can punch a hole through any one of the German tanks.

The fact that I think you are dead WRONG! is secondary.

I watched an interview on the History Channel that disputes your comment, anyway. So, I would like to see the Pershing here. There are plenty of armor guys, already online, that would make good use of it.

Voss 13th T.A.S.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2001, 02:24:00 PM »

the pershing is a widowmaker.
it makes 3/4 widows at once

The americans never builded a great tank untill the Abrahams!!

Good tanks where made in europe till than.

Centurion, challenger, leopard etc even the T's would have significant advantage against american tanks untill the abrahams

Jimdandy · « **Reply #6 on:** January 20, 2001, 02:44:00 PM »

I think a T-34 would be good. The Russians don't have a lot of stuff on here. It would be a nice alternative. Since we are getting a perk Tiger I think a non perk T-34 would be cool. It was the direct compitition to the Panzer IV we have now. I would like to see some armored cars added too.

Jack55 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 20, 2001, 04:32:00 PM »

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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322:
The americans never builded a great tank untill the Abrahams!!

Good tanks where made in europe till than.

Shermans delt with T-34s quite well in Korea and the Israeli M-60, M-48 and even Shermans with 105mm gun gave a pretty accounting for them selves too. I'll admit that superior crew training probably had a lot to do with that performance.

Hans · « **Reply #8 on:** January 20, 2001, 07:54:00 PM »

I think a sherman tank would be better.

For every vehicle you suggest the game should have, you have to consider that it WILL NOT make the current vehicles out dated. It has to be contemporary, better in some ways, and worse in others.

The Sherman would have a smaller gun, lighter armor, but better speed than the Panzer IV-H. Perhaps even a better AA defense with a .50 cal M2 on top for the commander.

Still, if you really want a good American tank there is the improved M4A2E8-76 The -E8 means it has a different suspension and the -76 means it has the high velocity 76mm gun.

A T-34 would be nice, but should be a 75mm armed one, not the 85mm gun.

Any stronger tank should be a perk vehicle.

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Jimdandy · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2001, 10:35:00 PM »

I agree with the 75mm version not being perked. Anything higher should be. I also like the Sherman idea. The only reason I wouldn't want to see the Sherman added first is that we already represent 2 US and 2 German vehicles (I will admit the Germans are more powerfully represented) and no British or USSR armor.

bloom25 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2001, 10:39:00 PM »

How about a Churchill or a T34?

(Perk tank: Joseph Stalin 2, a 75mm round would probably barely scratch the paint.

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Vosper · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2001, 10:44:00 PM »

If you want a Sherman tank with a (really) good gun, look no farther than the Firefly.

"The 17-pounder gun fitted in the Sherman turret was roughly equivalent to the German Panther tank's 75mm gun. It was also slightly superior to both early model German 88mm guns like that found on the Tiger I and the 90mm tank gun as found in the US Army's M36 tank destroyer and M26 Pershing tank."

- M4 Sherman, Michael Green

Cheers

Rendar · « **Reply #12 on:** January 21, 2001, 12:16:00 AM »

Perked:

Panther G
Tiger II B
Pershing
SU-100
T-34/85
Sherman (76mm)
Something British

Normal:

T-34/76
Sherman (75mm)
StuG IV
SU-85
Something British

Forget about the contemporary issue...ok? We have perk points for a reason.

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Voss · « **Reply #13 on:** January 21, 2001, 12:57:00 AM »

I see you've all met BUG!

I would hate to learn, after all this time in ACM, that I had a talent for tanks. I didn't want anyone misled into thinking I was going to drive tanks!

Support? No problem!
Tanks? Forget about it!

I do know a few armor heads, though, that would probably be happy to hear the tank possibilities have grown!

Voss 13th T.A.S.

brady · « **Reply #14 on:** January 21, 2001, 02:34:00 AM »

Not to be anal or anything but T34 had 76mm gun's not 75mm guns and a couple of different 76mm tubes the early ones being lower velocity, than the latter , the 85mm tube on the T34 was comparable to the 7.5cm Kwkl48 on the Pzkfw IV in terms of AP effect.

The 76mm aka 17pounder on the Firefly would be a perked weapon due to it's quantum range and kill power increase over the current 7.5cm Kwk l48, the tube on the Panther is of comparable performance, Of course the Firefly share's the same chief fault of the Sherman, it is an easy kill, pore armor and big target.

really when all things are considered the T34 would be a good choice,it would give the Russians another unit and they need one and it would be a great tank, a WAY better one than the Sherman and it would not upset the balance of the current set.

Brady
Brady

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