point taken, however then that Ugly "rules troll" rears his head and you end up with a flame war.
when jg54 takes on the 353'd and the 172'd, we pretty much keep it to just those rules.
however its the people that think that ganging vulching and Hoing is ACM that we have a problem. we're very happy help them if they ask.
but if they insist on MA tactics, we're also happy to show them the errors of their ways. its pretty much that simple.