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Offline Scratchman

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Graphics improvement
« on: July 09, 2009, 03:21:27 PM »
I see more and more posts about FPS and the new Beta, yet an important solution never seems to be mentioned. I bring this up for most PC users rarely, if ever do this. But everyone should include in their regular maintenance of their computers cleaning out all the dust and muck that builds up inside. GPU's when stresssed more will run hotter, and in turn this affects performance. Plugged cooling fans are the BIGGEST cause of overheating for GPU's and CPU's. I recommend that at least once a month users shut their computers down, open up the hood and clean out their computers. Use of canned air spray can suffice, just don't use up too close to your parts. You'll be amazed how much dust and lint gets built up on the GPU and CPU fans. THIS will affect your perfomance, and eventual death of your systems. After this is done, go to your local market and buy Swifter sheets that are used for a Swifter and cut out pieces of sheets to fit your air intakes for all your fans. Simple black electical tape will suffice to hold them in place. When they get dirty remove and redo. No more muck inside your box. To know how hot your running simply Google Speedfan, and download their free version for this software. This utility will show you all your fans and how hot your CPU Cores, GPU, Hard Drives, etc. are actually running under load. Hope this helps.  :salute
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 03:34:06 PM »
That use of swifter sheets sounds like a good idea.My old system would build up so much dust in the vaines of my CPU heatsink that it would over heat and shut off.Every now and again I would take it off and clean it out.


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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 06:32:10 PM »
Out here amongst the sugar beet & onion fields, I take the compressor to my PC once every two weeks. Farmland trades owners every time the wind comes up.
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 07:23:46 PM »
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 10:44:03 PM »
Quote from: thndregg on July 09, 2009, 06:32:10 PM
Out here amongst the sugar beet & onion fields, I take the compressor to my PC once every two weeks. Farmland trades owners every time the wind comes up.

I heard somewhere that you don't wanna put too much air pressure through your cooling fans.

They will spin faster than they were intended to and could possibly be ruined.

And by the time you figured out they were ruined, it would be too late.

Pretty sure i heard that somewhere, just sayin.
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 12:04:02 AM »
Quote from: Scratchman on July 09, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
buy Swifter sheets that are used for a Swifter and cut out pieces of sheets to fit your air intakes for all your fans.

I would think another filtering media might be better suited for this.  Swiffers are very dense and would cause
enormous airflow restriction.  What you gain in cleanliness, you loose in capacity to keep things cool...which is the whole point.
Plus the added stress to the fans, which will attempt to maintain a certain rpm based on their purpose and make(in some cases, heat load).  Without enough
air to move, the blades effectively become a braking system.  Destroying the very weak little motor in the fan.

I'll put an anemometer on one of the extra case fans I have around with a sheet of swiffer on it this weekend and report back.

In the meantime, I would suggest something along the lines of those cheap 1/4" cut-to-size foam filters from Ace Hardware before
a swiffer pad...if anything at all.
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Offline Keiler

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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 01:38:59 AM »
Another cheap solution would be nylons. Talk to your lady to give you some nylons she doesnt need anymore, or buy some new. Cut into fitting pieces and cover the intakes. A note though, they do cause pressure loss also, which in turn reduces cooling performance. Speedfan is my pick also to monitor what the temperature is doing.

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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 01:55:47 AM »
I'm with Thunderegg on this one, nothing 80PSI hasn't been able to solve as my computer battles a dog and a coal furnace. As far as destroying your fans goes just be careful, easy enough to regulate that.
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 05:31:39 AM »
http://www.industrialnetting.com/oriented.html  I don't have time to look for more right now, but this is the kind of stuff you want to make a filter out of.  It's re-usable, and washable, and they have different spacings so as not to restrict airflow. 

If anyone has ever seen a ductless split a/c system, the slide out filter in the air handler is perfect for a computer once you cut it to size.
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 07:51:26 AM »
Quote from: Roundeye on July 09, 2009, 07:23:46 PM
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nothing wrong with that at all (note the battery has been removed) apart from the force of the water bending the mobo. Ive cleaned plenty of boards worth £1000s, mobile phones etc with hot water and citrus degreaser, followed with a blast from a hairdryer :)
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2009, 10:25:07 AM »
Personally I don't generally recommend using anything more than a piece of nylon mesh window screen cut to fit for dust filtration on a system fan...you can use a piece of the tubing used on fish tank pumps and some hot glue to make a rigid frame around it...then use the screw from the fan to mount it over/under the fan where it meets the case...make sure the screen doesn't have enough slack in it to interfere with the fan blades and if the frame is matched right you can punch holes in it so the fan screws right over the top and it creates a bit of a seal/vibration damper...

But if you really want to save time...try a cheapo dollar store scotch brite knock off scrub pad...they don't have the density that real scotch brite pads have so the airflow isn't restricted like it would be with a swiffer or any other media.
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2009, 11:34:46 AM »
I blow my case out every two weeks with canned air.   I use canned air on the intake (removed the very restrictive cover) 2-3 times a week.

My case temperature is 30 degrees C.   

ALSO, on Speedfan, the "AUX" is a known blug of the program, my 8800GTS KO read as 127 degrees C.   According to eVGA Precision (by Rivatuner) it's 57 degrees while playing AH (the fan comes stock at 100% and I've been wondering if I should drop it to 75% lately).   I rarely use Speedfan anymore.   I know when my case needs to be cleaned thoroughly by placing my hand over the top or side fan.   

Swiffer material will choke your fans giving you more heat, IMO.   Dust is an easy thing to to take care of in a PC.   If you let it accumulate, that is your problem.   I have an Apevia X-Cruiser case and removed both metal hole patterned,  cosmetic things (they serve no purpose otherwise) and the filter from the side window.   

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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2009, 02:19:15 PM »
Quote from: SkiMan on July 10, 2009, 12:04:02 AM
I would think another filtering media might be better suited for this.  Swiffers are very dense and would cause
enormous airflow restriction.  What you gain in cleanliness, you loose in capacity to keep things cool...which is the whole point.
Plus the added stress to the fans, which will attempt to maintain a certain rpm based on their purpose and make(in some cases, heat load).  Without enough
air to move, the blades effectively become a braking system.  Destroying the very weak little motor in the fan.

I'll put an anemometer on one of the extra case fans I have around with a sheet of swiffer on it this weekend and report back.

In the meantime, I would suggest something along the lines of those cheap 1/4" cut-to-size foam filters from Ace Hardware before
a swiffer pad...if anything at all.
Swifter sheets are very thin, not to be confused with the thick pads for some of their models. I got this idea from the folks from MaximumPC Magazine, kinda the super Geek magazine for power users. But whatever you feel comfortable with using, the idea still remains sound in keeping dust, lint, and human dander out of your machines, whatever the material you use. Personally I have no need for this with my new case made by NZT, all fans come with removable filter screens that can be cleaned and washed. But by and far all good ideas on what materials to use. Speedfan has a new update that has fixed the Aux. bug, but I only mentioned it to show folks how hot their machines actually run. Like many others it's just a tool to use to know when you have a problem before your system crashes and burns for the last time. And it's good to see others using good sense on their only link to our addiction, lol.
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2009, 02:26:12 PM »
I raise and train dust mites to clean my PCs innerds. I have a sleeping quarters and playground in there so they remain happy.
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Re: Graphics improvement
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2009, 02:33:53 PM »
Quote from: Shuffler on July 10, 2009, 02:26:12 PM
I raise and train dust mites to clean my PCs innerds. I have a sleeping quarters and playground in there so they remain happy.
Lol...have you seen what these critters look like magnified? Makes the wife ack itch and squirm when she thinks about it.
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