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Offline Saxman

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BADLY neglected plane set.
« on: July 11, 2009, 09:59:02 AM »
The Japanese plane set without a doubt is one of the most neglected in the game.

DESPERATELY Needed:

Ki-43 (PRIORITY AIRCRAFT!)
G4M (PRIORITY AIRCRAFT!)
Ki-21
Ki-27
A5M
D4Y
B6N

Would like, but not critical:

G3M
Ki-44
Ki-45
J2M
N1K2 (we have the N1K2-J)
A6M3 Models 32 and 22 (Model 22 would be prefered, but I could see the clipped-wing Model 32 because it would offer something distinctive from the A6M2 and A6M5)
Ki-100
B7A (actually faster and more maneuverable than the Zero. Small production numbers could make it a rare perk choice for the Japanese set)
Ki-48
Ki-30
Ki-49
P1Y
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 10:22:29 AM »
+1  :aok
Our Japanese plane set is nothing to boast about...
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 10:35:05 AM »
The Russian planeset is gimp also.




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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 10:45:04 AM »
I'm with you 100% Sax. I REALLY hope we get more Japanese A/C in the near future. There should be an update focused on just Japanese planes to really take a chunk out of your list there.
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 10:52:51 AM »
Saxman,

There was no N1K2.

There is the N1K1, which was a float plane fighter, that is what the "N" in the name means.

There is the N1K1-J, which was the modified land based interceptor based on the previous float plane fighter.  "J" was the letter code for a land based interceptor as in the J2M 'Jack'.  In the case of the N1K1-J it is added on as a "-J" and the name means a float plane fighter modified to be a land based interceptor.

Lastly there is the N1K2-J which we have.

I am guessing you were suggesting that we get the N1K1-J, of which a bit more than 1000 were built.

EDIT:

I will add a note that the changes from the N1K1-J to the N1K2-J were so extensive that they are essentially different aircraft.  The wing was moved from midwing to low wing so that the complex, fragile telescopiong landing gear could be replaced with basic landing gear, the tail was completely redesigned, the cowl machineguns were removed, the ammo bins in the wings were changed to be an integral part of the wing in order to greatly enlarge its ammunition capacity.  There was a reduction of about 50% in the number of parts used to make the N1K2-J compared to the N1K1-J.  I don't recall reading anything about automatic combat flaps on the N1K1 or N1K1-J, but I could be mistaken about that.
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 10:55:32 AM »
KI-84lb should be relativley easy to add.  :rock
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 11:28:49 AM »
Im despertly trying to learn how to do repaints for aircraft skins :(
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 11:46:00 AM »
I'd also put the Ki-44 and J2M way above the Ki-27 or A5M in priority.
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 01:01:29 PM »
I'd also put the Ki-44 and J2M way above the Ki-27 or A5M in priority.

Karnak,

I'd take two birds that could open up a LOT of scenario options for the China-Burma-India theater any day. While I'll grant you an early variant of the Ki-44 would be useful, (keep in mind: the heavy cannon-armed IIc's were all deployed to the defense of Tokyo) the J2M didn't see combat until 1944. And yes, I meant the N1K1-J.

Kazaa,

At least Eastern Front scenarios can sub in Lend/Lease P-40s, P-39s, Hurricanes, ETC. to fill the holes in the Russian set. There ARE no legitimate substitutes for Japan. We have TONYs filling in for D4Ys in the Phillippine Sea FSO this month.  :huh
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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 01:19:05 PM »
The lack of bombers in both the Jap and Ruskie plane set is kinda sad actually.
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 01:30:56 PM »
Truth be tolled. I'd like to see some Japanese fighters and some Russian bombers. Both countries had great aircraft. The IL-4 is a beauty.

They made well over 5,000 of these. Yes, it is the IL-4.
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 02:01:32 PM »
Saxman,

For fighters, the Ki-43 stands heads and shoulders above the rest in terms of need and utility.

My choice for the Ki-44 would be a quad 12.7mm armed Ki-44-IIb.

Problem with the Ki-27 and A5M is that they were withdrawn so early that there aren't many scenarios for them.


Another fighter you left out of your list was an earlier version of the Ki-61-I.  The one we have is from 1944.
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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 04:29:47 PM »
The plane-set that is most lacking is that of the ITALIANS.  The Japanese set has some serious holes in it for certain; but not like the Italian set does.  The VVS set is a distant third.  Until the aforementioned set that I think is most lacking is added to, AH will not be as egalitarian as it could be.

Thank you for your attention.

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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 04:46:07 PM »
The plane-set that is most lacking is that of the ITALIANS.  The Japanese set has some serious holes in it for certain; but not like the Italian set does.  The VVS set is a distant third.  Until the aforementioned set that I think is most lacking is added to, AH will not be as egalitarian as it could be.

Thank you for your attention.

ps.  Pffft on the French lest anyone think I was un-aware of their state in AH.  :D
The thing about the Italian set is that the Regia Aeronautica had a comparatively small impact on the war, and an even smaller positive impact (positive for the Axis at least). Even in the Mediterranean Theater the majority of work was done by the Luftwaffe. The RA is certainly under- represented, but not any more than the Luftwaffe in proportion to its effect on the war, IMO. As far as I'm concerned with a CR 42, G.50 BR.20 and SM79 for the RA and the He 111, Ju 52, Do 217 and Me 410 for the Luftwaffe the western Axis powers would be very well represented (about as well as they need to be for a long time) compared to the rest of the sets in the game.

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Re: BADLY neglected plane set.
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 05:38:14 PM »
The plane-set that is most lacking is that of the ITALIANS.  The Japanese set has some serious holes in it for certain; but not like the Italian set does.  The VVS set is a distant third.  Until the aforementioned set that I think is most lacking is added to, AH will not be as egalitarian as it could be.

Thank you for your attention.

ps.  Pffft on the French lest anyone think I was un-aware of their state in AH.  :D

As is the case with the Russian set, there are plenty of gaps filled by foreign-produced aircraft (the Italians DID use quite a few German aircraft).

And making your text big and red doesn't give it any more weight.
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