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[Shuffler]

This is already what happens except for the duration.

HiTech

Thanks!

[Wreked]

Intersting reading here...I see a lot of demeaning/belittling statements right here in the forum from both new AND old sticks. Guess it's just part and parcel of the culture.

So perhaps a little direction please. While I understand the reason/intent of the ".report" function I'm a little hazy on the mechanics of it.
If I understand it correctly : If a X# of ".reports" are sent during a certain period of time then a communication penalty is assessed against the named individual.

-is this immediate?
-for how long?
-is there a right/method for adjudication?
-guidelines for language? (I find things today on TV/Radio that would heve been no-no 20 years ago)(you'd be surprised at the language that kids 8-10yo use in the school yard today heheh)


I did do a "search" and found bits an pieces here and there but nothing definitive.

thanx for this - a PM pointing me in the right direction is fine.

cheers eh!

*** Oh ya - one final thing - WHY does my plane keep falling out of the air?? Is it because the air around my plane isn't as thick as everyone elses?? Should I have sacrificed a sheep instead of being so cheap and using a gopher?? 
 

 

[dkff49]

If it were possible to take a deeper look at mass reports.... If it were found that a squad mass reports frequently and the "victim" was not at fault, if the entire squad was muted for one month that kind of behavior would most likely stop. That is the entire squad. Even if some did not participate. Squads would tend to take a better look at folks they bring into their ranks.

This is already what happens except for the duration.

HiTech

HT are saying even the part in red?

I know it is your "playground" but I can't see how myself or any other player can be held responsible for people that are 1000 miles away.

Sorry Shuffler I don't see your point in muting people that were not involved in the false mass report. Those people may not have even been on when it happened to try and diswade them from doing it. It may have even been something that was done while the squad leader was not on and also not had a chance to tell them that is not acceptable behavior either. This is one of those things that you can not tell someone is willing to do without a case of it happening. It is not like we know these people outside of AH and have seen how they act away from the mic.

[Dragon]

Sorry Shuffler I don't see your point in muting people that were not involved in the false mass report. Those people may not have even been on when it happened to try and diswade them from doing it. It may have even been something that was done while the squad leader was not on and also not had a chance to tell them that is not acceptable behavior either. This is one of those things that you can not tell someone is willing to do without a case of it happening. It is not like we know these people outside of AH and have seen how they act away from the mic.



If you find yourself muted and don't know why - because you were not on at the time of the incident - you should look in the forums for the latest "this sucks, I got muted and I don't know why" whine and I'm sure you will find out who done it and why and then you can confront your squad-mate.  Then send an email to HT and get your privileges restored, and move on.

[Masherbrum]

Sorry Shuffler I don't see your point in muting people that were not involved in the false mass report. Those people may not have even been on when it happened to try and diswade them from doing it. It may have even been something that was done while the squad leader was not on and also not had a chance to tell them that is not acceptable behavior either. This is one of those things that you can not tell someone is willing to do without a case of it happening. It is not like we know these people outside of AH and have seen how they act away from the mic.

If you find yourself muted and don't know why - because you were not on at the time of the incident - you should look in the forums for the latest "this sucks, I got muted and I don't know why" whine and I'm sure you will find out who done it and why and then you can confront your squad-mate.  Then send an email to HT and get your privileges restored, and move on.

I agree COMPLETELY with what Shuffler is saying.   If you choose to "condone the behavior", the rest of your squad should have to pay the consequence.   I've been mass reported several times and handled it appropriately, not whining on the BBS.   The majority of them were rescinded by Skuzzy.   

The larger problem is folks who provoke, then cry foul, ignoring their provoking attacks in the first place.   Which is something out of Junior High School.   

[dkff49]

I am very sure that none of my squad would do a false ".report". My only concern here is how is it I should be responsible for how a person acts that is 1000 miles away. Sorry one person acting out does not constitute an entire squad to be a problem.




From what you are saying a whole squad should also be muted if one of them uses foul language or barrades another player for not being a team player as well. As it seems to me. Heck let's go all out here and say the entire chess piece should be muted to make sure that everyone that could hear the plans being made puts the idea down before it canbe hatched.



Sorry for the sarcasm and maybe exaggerating the question here but my point is how far back should we point fingers. I can assure you that I will never support mass reporting that is not warranted whether it be a squad mate or not and if a member of my squad would complain about getting muted for doing it someone else I would simply say "Well got what you deserved then didn't yah" and I absolutely never let a member of my squad suggest anything like that without getting a "hell no" from me either.

I just feel that no one is resonsible for my actions but me and I am not responsible for anyone else's actions either but hey you guys are welcome to your opinions as well

[WWhiskey]

first page made me laugh so hard i cried,,,,,,, again
please stop,,, i have customers you know, they will think i am some kinda girlyman!!!!

[Shuffler]

To Dk

One persons use of language is the responsibility of that individual.

When you get a group from a squad reporting in unison for no reason then that group should pay the consequences. If some of that squad were not on and they get muted then they should think about changing squads. If you don't change squads then your just condoning their actions. Therefor you should pay the same penalty.

The idea is to stop false mass reporting from squad mates. Squads should be concerned as to how their members handle themselves in the arenas. Squads should check out an individual before recruiting them, as well, folks should check out a squad before just joining

[dkff49]

To Dk

One persons use of language is the responsibility of that individual.

When you get a group from a squad reporting in unison for no reason then that group should pay the consequences. If some of that squad were not on and they get muted then they should think about changing squads. If you don't change squads then your just condoning their actions. Therefor you should pay the same penalty.

The idea is to stop false mass reporting from squad mates. Squads should be concerned as to how their members handle themselves in the arenas. Squads should check out an individual before recruiting them, as well, folks should check out a squad before just joining

I respect that opinion and I see where you want the stakes to be high like that Shuffler. Tell me though how using improper language on an open channel is any different than mass reporting and not always is it just a group from one squad. Do you mute all the squads associated with each of the individuals even if it 15 guys each from a different squad?

I do get and understand your point of view Shuffler. I just don't agree with it.


edit:
My main reason though for my original post though was to just double check to see if indeed that red part of my post was included in HT's post or was just simply an over sight because I originally thought that only those involved in the false report were muted. The part addressed to Shuffler was more to offer up my opinion than to be argumentative.

Don't worry Shuffle, I will still be bait for you anytime I'm online.

[Shuffler]

Ha... I saw no arguement. All i saw was you asking a question. I thought I would clarify my opinion some.

As for someone cussing that is singular. We can squelch him and if one so desires or they can report him. When you get a group together to gang report someone intentionally then there will be problems. Ah does not condone terrorism from what I have seen.

[hitech]

It was an oversight read on my part, we only mute the people in the squad involved in the reporting.

Also ,we do not do this as punishment, but rather as a deterrent.  A squad has never done this twice,I.E. the message got across load and clear.


HiTech

[morfiend]

DK,

 I think your confussing things,a mass report is just that multiple players reporting an offence.

 Several players whether in 1 squad or many using foul language is not the issue!

 I would think the player or players involved in foul language would be dealt with on a per player basis.
Where as the mass report,if done maliciously to have another player muted,would and should be dealt with differently.

 I totally agree with Shuf and others on this matter,if a squad is found at fault they should be dealt with as a whole and if this happens to affect you maybe you should rethink you involvement with such a group.

  

[TwinBoom]

It was an oversight read on my part, we only mute the people in the squad involved in the reporting.

Also ,we do not do this as punishment, but rather as a deterrent.  A squad has never done this twice,I.E. the message got across load and clear.


HiTech

load and clear?

[PFactorDave]

load and clear?

Spell checker can't catch everything...

[dkff49]

It was an oversight read on my part, we only mute the people in the squad involved in the reporting.

Also ,we do not do this as punishment, but rather as a deterrent.  A squad has never done this twice,I.E. the message got across load and clear.


HiTech

I kind of thougt so, thanks for clarifying.


Morfiend I am not confused but rather used the foul language as an example of how far do we go with being responsible for our squadmate's actions. But thanks foryour input as well.

  to all with all your friendly discussion