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Offline Buzzbait

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« on: August 23, 2001, 04:53:00 PM »
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It would be good to see the Hurricane IIC have the loadout options for ordanance that the Hurricane IV had.  This is because the aircraft are very similar, and it is likely we will never see a Hurricane IV in AH.

Loadout for the Hurricane IV included Rockets similar to those used by the Typhoon and various bombs.

The Hurricane IV was heavily used in Burma and also saw service in Italy.

The fixed, non dropable long range tanks for the Hurricanes would also be a good idea to include.

These tanks cut down on performance considerably, but extended range to allow the Hurricane to be used in the Night Intruder role.  It saw service in this task in Sicily, Italy and Burma.

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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2001, 05:20:00 PM »
Please, no.

We already have one completely inacurate RAF fighter, lets not add to that blunder by mismodeling another.

I don't care that it makes them more powerful and useful.  I would much rather have them be as accurate as possible.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2001, 05:46:00 PM »
S! Karnak

It wouldn`t be mismodelled.

Many Hurricane IIC`s operated in Burma with the same loadouts as Hurricane IV`s.  Ie. Rockets and Bombs.  They had been retrofitted with hard points etc.

Almost all Hurricane models, from I to IV (not IID) used the long range non-droppable tanks.

And the performance of the Hurri IIC wouldn`t be modified by allowing it to use Rocket and Bomb loadouts.

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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2001, 05:54:00 PM »
I hope they make a Hurricane I and a Hurricane IV.  I had 1030 hp, II had 1280 hp, and IV had 1620 hp.  Those are significant differences.

[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: funkedup ]

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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2001, 06:05:00 PM »
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I will be surprised to see a Hurricane IV

The Hurri I is a given, considering how popular the BoB era is.

Absolutely the Hurri IV had different performance than the IIC.  It was heavier, had a different engine etc.

Hurri IIC`s retro-fitted with rockets would perform quite differently.

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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2001, 08:05:00 PM »
The non-dropable tanks on the Hurricane were a disaster if they were to meet ANY aircraft in an air combat. Hurry Pilots hated them
Besides, few of us ever take a full fuel load in the MA.
If anything, I'd like to see the Hurricane IIa in Aces High,- that is pretty much what the Hurricane IIB with fixed tanks looked like whene the RAF squadrons in Burma had "cured" them from desigh failiures.
Improve the performance by throwing those outwing guns away, and also dump those high-drag tanks.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2001, 08:21:00 PM »
S! Angus

You are right, the non-droppable tanks really cut into performance.

They were used in Burma on Ground attack Hurricanes to give them more cruise time, when the Japanese Air Force had been reduced to no real threat.

They were also used in night intruder Hurricanes over Sicily in `42.  They had quite a bit of success there.  The Hurricanes would patrol over the Italian and German airfields and wait for a Ju88 or SM79 to come in from a night bombing mission to Malta.  Then they`d make visual contact of the exhaust flares and shoot the aircraft down.  Again, the tanks gave them a lot of endurance time and allowed them to hang around for a long time.

They also got into some tussles with Ju88c nightfighters in those situations.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2001, 10:51:00 AM »
Buzzbait, refererring to an earlier post you made in this thread: I think the magic word is "retrofitted".

So far (well, AFAIK) HTC has chosen to equip all planes in factory default condition (barring the Spit F.IX and the weapon loadout mystery). In some cases HTC has not have had the time to do even all the factory configurations (prevalent on the 190F8 for example).

I'm just saying this because if one plane would get something that was retrofitted to them, there would be cries for whatnot on almost every plane (the 72" MAP boost thingie for the P47 etc).

If it were up to me, the Hurri's could get any gizmo available; their mediocre performance (against these late-war planes) will hurt them enough already.