Evening formation flight with my dad & low altitude river run

[Cobra516]

Nothing blowing up or crazy aerobatics so it's kind of underwhelming but I thought the footage came out well.  The Super Cub is my dads, but he was flying his friends C-150, his friend did most of the filming. 

We waited until it cooled off a bit before we took off, that C-150 doesn't have very stellar takeoff performance,    It was very near gross weight with a bit less than full tanks and two people in it.   

You might notice my shirt changes color from yellow during takeoff/landing to blue in flight, the takeoff and touch & go's were filmed a while back, I'm not OCD or anything "gotta have my yellow shirt for takeoff/landing and change to blue in flight or else bad things happen!" 

Formation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P8y2V00X-4&feature=channel_page

Over the river
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueK6Z6_n-y0&feature=channel

[bcadoo]

Very Nice, Cobra.  Thanks for sharing 

[slimmer]

cool

[Wolfala]

God a couple to share from my end.

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[Denholm]

Nice flying. Thanks for sharing.

[SKJohn]

God a couple to share from my end.

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I love that crazy looking prop in "Tac Lead" (the 2nd one).  It almost appears like the a/c is moving backwards they way it looks like it's bending forward.  BTW, what kind of plane is that?

[Wolfala]

I love that crazy looking prop in "Tac Lead" (the 2nd one).  It almost appears like the a/c is moving backwards they way it looks like it's bending forward.  BTW, what kind of plane is that?

SR-20

[Cobra516]

Great footage Wolf, much nicer scenery out there than flying around here.  You guys are a bit faster than the Cub and a 150,    

Did you guys file IFR to get up on top then cancel for the formation work or just found a hole and VFR'd up through it to get on top?

I flew an SR-22 once, it's quite a machine.  I wish it had a center stick though, the sidestick wasn't as strange feeling as I expected it would be though.

Would like to get checked out in the SR-22 at the flight school but they're so damn expensive to rent.

     

[Wolfala]

Great footage Wolf, much nicer scenery out there than flying around here.  You guys are a bit faster than the Cub and a 150,    

Did you guys file IFR to get up on top then cancel for the formation work or just found a hole and VFR'd up through it to get on top?

I flew an SR-22 once, it's quite a machine.  I wish it had a center stick though, the sidestick wasn't as strange feeling as I expected it would be though.

It was a very unusual case where we filed IFR flight of 2 but remained on top and inbetween layers. New York was slow that day so it made for good smooth flying. Vis was around 5 miles but since it's between layers it just looked all milked out.

[Banshee7]

Cool!  Thanks for sharing guys.

[Cobra516]

It was a very unusual case where we filed IFR flight of 2 but remained on top and inbetween layers. New York was slow that day so it made for good smooth flying. Vis was around 5 miles but since it's between layers it just looked all milked out.

Ah, interesting - I was thinking about how to do this a while ago when a friend and I wanted to both file IFR and then form up once we were VMC.  We ended up just cancelling IFR on top.

Found my answer with a google search

"I will answer for Kahuna. You are correct, file a single flight plan and put Flight of X in remarks. But, if you do this the controllers will expect just the leader to squawk and for all members of the formation to remain within 1 mile of the leader and at same level, unless given a block altitude. Also, it makes it easier on the flight members if lead has 2 radios. Then he can switch freqs with Center on one radio and keep the formation on a single inflight freq on the other without having to checkout and checkin the flight all the way along."

[Wolfala]

Ah, interesting - I wonder how they work that out.  If you were both on an IFR plan they're required to keep a minimum of 3 miles lateral separation in a terminal area and 5 miles enroute or a 1,000 ft verticle separation.  I thought you had to get a waiver / permission from the FSDO/FAA to conduct an IFR formation flight.   

I was thinking about how to do this a while ago when a friend and I wanted to both file IFR and then form up once we were VMC.  We ended up just cancelling IFR on top.

You file as 1 callsign so only the lead ship has his xpdr on, wingman is silent so tge CA Ca doesn't go off when 2 transponders look merged. Lead is sqwacking, wingman in stby so his return is a primary only.