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Offline trigger2

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Question about flaps on landing.
« on: July 15, 2009, 06:13:32 PM »
So, for short landings IRL you want to, after wheels are down, bring your flaps back up which adds weight/friction to your wheels (less lift) which maximizes your breaking and allows you to bring your aircraft to a stop sooner. My question (now that all that backstory is done) is in AHII, does using this tactic minimize your stopping distance, does it have no effect, or does it have a reverse effect?
Inquiring minds are curious. ;)

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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 06:14:41 PM »
To mimimize stopping distance, leave gear up.  :)
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 06:17:51 PM »
To mimimize stopping distance, leave gear up.  :)

The only issue there is it makes getting the scrap metal a little more challenging as it's all tangled together. ;)
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 06:18:25 PM »
Short answer:

It depends on the airplane.

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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 06:18:33 PM »
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 06:19:26 PM »
I tend to have a longer stopping distance landing with flaps down in my favorite JUG, so I leave them up.

To mimimize stopping distance, leave gear up.  :)

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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 06:43:44 PM »
To mimimize stopping distance, leave gear up.  :)

Yep, great for landing short under fire with a vulcher diving in on you.


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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 06:44:15 PM »
Landing!? well thats just crazy talk!  :P
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 11:24:33 PM »
So, for short landings IRL you want to, after wheels are down, bring your flaps back up which adds weight/friction to your wheels (less lift) which maximizes your breaking and allows you to bring your aircraft to a stop sooner. My question (now that all that backstory is done) is in AHII, does using this tactic minimize your stopping distance, does it have no effect, or does it have a reverse effect?
Inquiring minds are curious. ;)

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it seems to work for me in the p38. but if you want a short landing, you can also make your aimpoint closer......and watch your speed on short final.  :noid
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 11:31:25 PM »
For short landings I've always been a fan of the nose slide style. Requires gear down and an extra 5 perks if you .ef standing on your nose yet.
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2009, 12:01:54 AM »
it seems to work for me in the p38. but if you want a short landing, you can also make your aimpoint closer......and watch your speed on short final.  :noid

Nah, I can make a pretty short stop, I'm just wondering if they physics in here allow for the flaps up to work, or what. Golfer says it depends, so I'll just go with that...
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2009, 12:09:11 AM »
Nah, I can make a pretty short stop, I'm just wondering if they physics in here allow for the flaps up to work, or what. Golfer says it depends, so I'll just go with that...

i'd imagine he's right. like i said, it works for me in the 38j. i've never tried it in anything else.
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2009, 12:38:04 AM »
For short landings I've always been a fan of the nose slide style. Requires gear down and an extra 5 perks if you .ef standing on your nose yet.

I can do that on demand in the F6F but every once in a while I flip all the way over.   :)
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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2009, 12:46:51 AM »
Nah, I can make a pretty short stop, I'm just wondering if they physics in here allow for the flaps up to work, or what. Golfer says it depends, so I'll just go with that...

I'd like to clarify that it depends on the airplane when it comes to whether or not its going to react better to the weight on wheels assisting breaking.  Some might decelerate better with the drag from more flaps, spoilers or speed brakes.

In terms of in-game from my very much non scientific observations you can achieve better braking in some airplanes by raising the flaps.  Whether or not I'm seeing what I want to see in that perception is a question for HTC to determine if thats their intention in modeling.

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Re: Question about flaps on landing.
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 01:02:53 AM »
I can do that on demand in the F6F but every once in a while I flip all the way over.   :)

Always found it fairly easy to do in the A6M but that's just me.
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