Author Topic: 190A5 climb rate (Read 1631 times)

Karnak · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2000, 12:34:00 PM »

I like the Fw190A-5, but I like the Bf109G-10 much better. They don't feel wrong to me, so even though I am seen as an Allied type here, I'm not complaining about the German aircraft.

Tour 6 I've been flying the Bf109G-10 most of the time and I must say that it has help my performance a lot.

Sisu
-Karnak

fd ski · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2000, 01:02:00 PM »

Just an FYI for RAM and other non-WB folk.

Ra used to fly WB ( assuming its the same ra ) and u would usually find him in LW planes. I tried to get him to join many times ( especially after he kicked my bellybutton over and over

) but he's always been a lonewulf.

He is a very good and experianced pilot. Probably one of the best in WB's 109.

As for AH 190A5 - with 2 less guns and 50 gas i outturned (lufbery circle ) a 205 which had E on me other day. Enough said.

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Staga · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2000, 01:18:00 PM »

Karnak:
There's no such a thing like Bf-109 G-10 or is there ?
Allways thought that the earlier vers. were Bf and later Me ?

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Fishu · « **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2000, 01:24:00 PM »

I've read that 190A was a match for Spitfrie V's..
Mostly for its speed, climb and roll rate.

Citabria · « **Reply #19 on:** July 27, 2000, 02:41:00 PM »

you can make all the planes in AH as uber as ya want as long as the p-38 turns and zooms better than any of them

Karnak · « **Reply #20 on:** July 27, 2000, 02:50:00 PM »

Staga, the 109s were Bf prefixed from start to finish. The Allies didn't know that and always refer to them as Me109s (these are the same Allies who called all Japanese fighters a Zero).

Fishu, as far as I've read the Fw190A was considered much better than the Spitfire MkV and its unexpected appearance on the scene is what prompted the Spitfire MkIX to be hodge-podged together (the MkIIIV was suposed to be the definitive Merline engined Spitfire).

The Fw190A could out run, out dive, out roll, out zoom and maybe even out climb the Spitfire MkV, the Spitfire MkV could out turn the Fw190A

Sisu
-Karnak

ra · « **Reply #21 on:** July 27, 2000, 03:03:00 PM »

FD-ski: thanks for the promo

but it's unwarranted. In WB I would only fly the 109 in the HA to help balance the 4:1 allied advantage; the Jug was my preferred ride. A couple of times we fought when I was very low on fuel, so you ended up with the mistaken idea that I could fly a 109 well.

Citabria: the P-38 only turns well and zooms well when you are flying it.

Fishu: you'll be glad to hear that the AH 190A5 outclimbs the SpitV by about 200 fpm at low altitude...while carrying a 500kg bomb!

ra

funked · « **Reply #22 on:** July 27, 2000, 03:04:00 PM »

RA: The data I posted is part of a whole manual for the plane and there is no mention of the supplemental petrol injection system. There is a section on engine power in the manual and it shows about 1700 hp, apparently verified in the Wright Field powerplant lab.

Fishu · « **Reply #23 on:** July 27, 2000, 03:31:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak:

The Fw190A could out run, out dive, out roll, out zoom and maybe even out climb the Spitfire MkV, the Spitfire MkV could out turn the Fw190A

Sisu
-Karnak

That climbing ability is that issue that has stuck in my mind better than any other compare between those two.. and boy, did 190A climb better. (blah, i dont remember numbers)

Fishu · « **Reply #24 on:** July 27, 2000, 03:34:00 PM »

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Originally posted by ra:

Fishu: you'll be glad to hear that the AH 190A5 outclimbs the SpitV by about 200 fpm at low altitude...while carrying a 500kg bomb!

When I we're testing Spitfrie V against tank in H2H mode, I didn't like it's climbing speed at all, felt like it lost E alot quicker than 9 (and still having same sort of airframe..)
Also climb felt like climbing in a stuka.
Its almost like 109F, it feels to be climbing verrrry slow too. (lol, it cant even escape P-51 with +10k advantage with dive

)

Jigster · « **Reply #25 on:** July 27, 2000, 05:23:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Jekyll:
Hmmm. I always thought the A3 had the BMW 801D engine and the A5 had the BMW 801D-2 engine (both 1,700 hp), with slightly different supercharger gear ratios.

Wasn't the preformence progression of the Fw190A3 through the A5 done by allowing the engine governer to allow more RPMs?

This was the case with the A3's over the A4's, sacraficing engine life for more preformence, was the same done with the A5?

- Jig
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A propeller just a cooling system for a pilot. Turn it off and watch him begin to sweat.

funked · « **Reply #26 on:** July 27, 2000, 05:26:00 PM »

109F outperforms Spit V in climb, speed, everything except turn rate. Spit V climb is about equal to A-8 but decidedly inferior to A-5. (Talking about AH here but the historical data is the same)

Bikekill and I did some duels with A-5 vs. Spit V and it sure was like the AFDU comparison. A-5 will lose a flat-turning fight, but in a level merge with both planes at top speed, the A-5 can dominate by forcing a vertical fight. It's a really entertaining matchup.

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Hristo · « **Reply #27 on:** July 27, 2000, 06:28:00 PM »

A-5 has "Spit killer" written all over it

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Citabria · « **Reply #28 on:** July 27, 2000, 07:28:00 PM »

yeah but you galland types have no respect for the p-38

Fishu · « **Reply #29 on:** July 27, 2000, 07:59:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Citabria:
yeah but you galland types have no respect for the p-38

54 streak in WB with P-38J