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« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2009, 04:27:28 PM »
Get some perspective please. He told a joke. If a joke hurts you this much see a psychiatrist.

Get well soon.
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« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2009, 04:33:00 PM »
Not deluded whatsoever.  I'm just much more experienced in this than you.  That's not a slap, it's just a fact.  About 1/3 think it's horrible, 1/3 think it's funny, and another 1/3 think nothing of it.  Trust me.
 
No, it is not.  It is a slap to some people.  Not "any" person, not by any means.  That joke I posted above about my brother was a true story.

You're free to.  But your protest is a double edged sword, and there's a significant chance that you are hurting more than you are helping.  YMMV.

No hard feelings here...

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Trust you??  And where are you pulling this numbers from?  From deep within?  You are much more experienced than me in this matter?  You talk to other people who've lost people to DUI's on a
regular basis?  What a crock..  Take your little "been here since 2004" attitude and give to your Proctologist.. :rolleyes:  
"Much more experienced than you"....... :lol  Based on what??  Who/What do you think I am??  You don't even know me..  

Again, belittling someone to advance your stature on the boards...  WTG :aok

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Re: Designated Decoy
« Reply #62 on: July 29, 2009, 04:34:12 PM »
Get some perspective please. He told a joke. If a joke hurts you this much see a psychiatrist.

Get well soon.


Again, I truly hope this never ever happens to you..
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« Reply #63 on: July 29, 2009, 04:39:22 PM »
You don't even know me..

Despite you doing your damnedest to make sure we know every tragic, personal hard luck story of your, and your family's life.

Get some perspective please. It's a joke.
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« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2009, 04:40:01 PM »
Trust you??  And where are you pulling this numbers from?  From deep within?  You are much more experienced than me in this matter?  You talk to other people who've lost people to DUI's on a
regular basis?  What a crock..  Take your little "been here since 2004" attitude and give to your Proctologist.. :rolleyes:  
"Much more experienced than you"....... :lol  Based on what??  Who/What do you think I am??  You don't even know me..  

Again, belittling someone to advance your stature on the boards...  WTG :aok


I like to maintain my anonymity, if you'll indulge me...  But suffice to say once upon a time I was a very insensitive idiot and made a very big mistake by telling a poor joke in a venue I shouldn't have.  Several thousand emails later and a few hundred face to face meetings with people who were affected by it, and I'd say I'm pretty well experienced at seeing how people handle poor jokes.  The numbers roughly worked out to that.

It's not a "been here since 2004" attitude, and if that would be your first thought I'm not sure you are thinking very clearly right now, though I can't necessarily blame you.

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« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2009, 04:42:59 PM »

Again, I truly hope this never ever happens to you..

So do I.

I also hope the Germans don't gas me to death. However I still laugh at holocaust jokes.
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« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2009, 04:45:02 PM »
Despite you doing your damnedest to make sure we know every tragic, personal hard luck story of your, and your family's life.

Get some perspective please. It's a joke.

Well, you're obviously just a jerk(I would call you worse, but that doesn't fly here) more concerned with making a mockery of things than anything else....  
Last time I will acknowledge you..  And, again..  Seriously hope this never happens to you....
But, if it does, remember to get some perspective.... :aok
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« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2009, 04:53:15 PM »
If you mean harassing and trying to make a kid feel guilty for telling a joke, and divulging personal tragedies to complete strangers... Yeah, I won't do that. No matter how many friends and family gets killed by DUI drivers, I won't make an innocent kid feel guilty for it. What kind of a-hole would do that.

Thank you for ruining a good joke thread.
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« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2009, 04:55:39 PM »
I like to maintain my anonymity, if you'll indulge me...  But suffice to say once upon a time I was a very insensitive idiot and made a very big mistake by telling a poor joke in a venue I shouldn't have.  Several thousand emails later and a few hundred face to face meetings with people who were affected by it, and I'd say I'm pretty well experienced at seeing how people handle poor jokes.  The numbers roughly worked out to that.

It's not a "been here since 2004" attitude, and if that would be your first thought I'm not sure you are thinking very clearly right now, though I can't necessarily blame you.




So, you don't have any real-life experience dealing with families and friends that have had to deal with particular sort of thing..  You just told a couple jokes and pissed some people off, they told you it pissed them off, you heard them out, and now you have an
enlightened perspective on what these families/people think and how they will react.. :huh

Wow......  OK man, if you say so....

You know what?  I'm done with this thread..  This is ludicrous how some of you people think..  Absolutely..  
I'm not saying with the respect to the joke..  I'm saying with how inconsiderate some of you are in a scenario such as this..

The reality of it is that joke or not, this is a infuriating thing to read for some people..  And then for others to say they are
seeking attention because of it is another slap to the face..  Wtg!  You're such big, strong, burly men!   :aok
    
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Re: Designated Decoy
« Reply #69 on: July 29, 2009, 04:56:59 PM »
If you mean harassing and trying to make a kid feel guilty for telling a joke, and divulging personal tragedies to complete strangers... Yeah, I won't do that. No matter how many friends and family gets killed by DUI drivers, I won't make an innocent kid feel guilty for it. What kind of a-hole would do that.

Thank you for ruining a good joke thread.

You're very welcome...  Anywhere that I can bring reality into account is a pleasure...
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« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2009, 05:00:18 PM »
Yes, because reality and jokes are mutually inclusive. Get some perspective please.
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« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2009, 05:04:36 PM »

So, you don't have any real-life experience dealing with families and friends that have had to deal with particular sort of thing..  You just told a couple jokes and pissed some people off, they told you it pissed them off, you heard them out, and now you have an
enlightened perspective on what these families/people think and how they will react.. :huh

Wow......  OK man, if you say so....
    

Yep.  When you tell a joke that ticks people off, and several thousand emails flood in telling you exactly how they feel about it, you do get an enlightened perspective on how people think and how they will react to another joke that ticks them off (I'm not sure why that concept is so confusing).  You get a few different kinds of emails (for brevity, let's just deal with people who personally went through the "DD kills a person":

1. "OMG YOU ARE THE WORST PERSON EVER!!!!11!!! DIE DIE DIE! I HATE YOU HOW COULD YOU DO THIS" (they didn't find it funny)
2. "This happened to me, but I still think it was funny!" (believe it or not, these people do exist, in much greater quantity than you might suppose)
3. "This happened to me and I don't find it funny but I think all the people going nuts over this are crazy."

You also get a few subgroups, like 1a)

1a. That happened to me.  I didn't find it funny.  It really hurt me.  Please try and be more sensitive in the future."

You know, calm, collected, sincere.  I felt very bad for 1a's.  The 1's?  Not so much.
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Re: Designated Decoy
« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2009, 05:06:58 PM »

The reality of it is that joke or not, this is a infuriating thing to read for some people..  And then for others to say they are
seeking attention because of it is another slap to the face..  Wtg!  You're such big, strong, burly men!   :aok
    

BTW...  Some people 100% do seek attention for it.  One notable person had absolutely no problem whatsoever with the joke (and told me so with a laugh) until the news cameras showed up.  After that, she was the face of the protest.

Further...  I didn't call any news cameras?  The people who called them were people like you.  People out to make a scene, and who couldn't care how many more they had to hurt to do it.  Just so long as they were "right."  It didn't make sense to me then, and it doesn't make sense to me now.
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Re: Designated Decoy
« Reply #73 on: July 29, 2009, 05:39:35 PM »
Anodizer, since you want to get on the "party attitude", take this into perspective: I do NOT like alcohol. I refuse to ride with my father if he has been drinking. I refuse to ride with friends if they have been drinking, and try to talk them into jumping in my car and letting me drive instead. I'm not a party guy proud of my accomplishments. But this joke was funny, at least to some. Stop trying to make me feel guilty, I have been told I don't have the conscience for that. No, I haven't lost any family to a drunk driver. I have personally been hit by one, one who was underaged to boot, but fortunately it just left yet another dent in my POS car. I HAVE lost several Family to the Germans. Some of my greatest relatives saw their end over Germany in the '40s. Some made it to the ground to fight their way out and were killed by the soldiers who found them first. My grandfather lost EVERY SINGLE FRIEND he had in flight school on D-Day when they flew gliders in and were all killed in the assault. And yet, I still love a good World War II joke! It's a matter of understanding the difference between a joke and a personal attack. If you cannot differentiate between the two, you honestly aren't worth my time. However, the one time I asked nicely that we try to cut back on saying something because I have a personal connection to it, I get 11 pages of people flaming me. Do I try to blame you all for saying a word? No. I bite my tongue, and just ignore it. I've said my piece, I've asked nicely, I'm done. You however decide to try to convert everyone around you to try to make them feel as personally offended as you are.

So, to sum it up, you're being ridiculous. You've made your point, now walk away. If people respect your point, then they will agree, and walk away. If not, hanging around won't help you. But in the end you are obviously too easily offended and take things far too personally for you to be worth my time explaining any more. There are two types of people here: People who are entertained by my posts, and those who simply want to flame me because they have no lives. I am here to serve the former. The latter can shove it.

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Re: Designated Decoy
« Reply #74 on: July 29, 2009, 06:56:18 PM »
Get some perspective please. He told a joke. If a joke hurts you this much see a psychiatrist.

Get well soon.

Agreed,
There are many jokes told that in the real world are not funny. But in the realm of humor are.
For example. How many times have we seen in a movie or film clip someone skiing and crashing and we break up histerically laughing at it.?
Yet a good many people have been injured, crippled and even killed from such skiing incidents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyqaKBOidEQ
Or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUU9UmT134M
and
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/richardsons-accident-reignites-ski-helmet-debate/

Ever seen and enjoyed watching Smokey and the Bandit? Some funny car chase scenes there. Pretty funny when the cop cars run off the raod andf flip over or off the end of a bridge.
Yet IRL how many people die each year or cause other peoples deaths because of that kind of reckless driving.

Or lets bring it a little closer. On this board itself someone posts a link to a video of someone who should win the Darwin award for their stupidity.
do we say "OMG he should be more careful because he could get hurt"?
No. typicaly we all chuckle and shake our heads at their stupidity.
Yet there is someone somewhere who probably did the exact same thing and didnt survive to tell or show the tale

I could go on and on and on with example after example.
 In any one of those examples or in the joke in the OP you can find someone who may have been effected by any one of those types of incidents.

Are people not supposed to joke about anything on the off chance that someone somewhere might have been affected negatively by whichever subject matter is being joked about?
Course not. That would be ridiculous. Point is regardless of real events potential RL consequences the subject matter of such humor We should regardless of our RL experiences should Keep it in perspective and maintain some common sense and be able to recognize a joke or humorous comment for being just that. A joke.
You dont have to laugh at it. And you dont even have to find it funny. Just see it for its intended purpose
Die Hard is exactly correct in his statement. Nobody was condoning driving drunk or saying it was ok

For the record. my father and my very best friend in separate incidents were hit and killed by cars. Smokey and the Bandit does not offend me. Nor does any other humorous film segment of someone being hit by a car offend me.
I simply keep them both in perspective. One is real life.
The other is a humorous parody
If I didnt. And it bothered me that much I also agree with Die Hard.
I'd be in need of a psychiatrist.
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