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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2009, 11:56:20 AM »
So you have 14 Amps on the +12V? If that's so you will need a new power supply to accommodate any form of a graphics card upgrade.
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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2009, 12:52:09 PM »
damnit more $$ outta my pocket, how much is it to get a new power supply? And if i can't get it would a bit of ram help? idk why but i run perfectly fine in beta
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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2009, 04:24:55 PM »
RAM will definitely help. Best of all, you shouldn't require a new power supply to support that extra RAM.

Your computer is in one of those classic predicaments. You most likely have a small computer case, a low-end power-supply, no video card, no sound card, and hardware which barely emits any heat. Putting in new components (not upgrading existing components) wouldn't be worth it since 1. you might not have the space to support the component. 2. Your computer's casing probably doesn't have ideal airflow. 3. Your computer's casing doesn't have a means to manage any of the internal cables. 4. The component you intend to install emits more heat than your computer's casing was designed to manage.

RAM is really the only thing I would consider upgrading in that system. The rest I would save to build a new computer at a later time.
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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2009, 04:40:49 PM »
i should have enough cash by next summer for a new computer suppose for now RAM is the best thing



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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2009, 04:42:41 PM »
If you think you're ignorant, you're a fresh batch of raspberries coating vanilla ice-cream. Others I have met are fresh-sliced onions inside vanilla ice-cream. I think you get the idea.
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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2009, 05:31:39 PM »
Well i'm not as advanced with this as you are  :P
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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2009, 01:32:40 PM »
Was getting more complaints about my warps and lagging so I need to get ram soon.

Bipolar said I have to make sure it runs with my power supply and can handle it

So i downloaded CPU-Z and if you read and let me know what I can handle and maybe search for some RAM for under 40$ 2 gb DDR2

CPU-Z TXT Report
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Binaries
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CPU-Z version         1.52

Processors
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Number of processors      1
Number of threads      1

APICs
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Processor 0   
   -- Core 0   
      -- Thread 0   0

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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2009, 02:50:03 PM »
Oh and I put in Old RAM from my moms windows Vista to see what would happen it was a stick of 512mb bringing my RAM to 702mbs of RAM and then went to log into AH2 and it said screen resolution to high see owners manual or lower resolution. I was running resoulion 1024x728 i think thats what it is for AH2. Why did that happen? And I'm going to pick up a Vista card and going to purchase it tonight if i can and get info i need..THanks again

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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2009, 05:35:06 PM »
How many sticks do you have in that system right now?

With DDR2 memory you need to make sure to buy it paired (two in the package), otherwise it won't work together. Therefore you would be buying two new sticks of RAM, not buying one stick to add to the memory you already have in your system.

I wouldn't worry about the power-supply supporting the RAM. If you're not buying gaming-memory you should be fine.
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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2009, 06:43:10 PM »
Alright its 2 sticks in right now same kind. Its PC2-4300 does it have to be the same type or can i get PC2-5400 etc etc?
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Re: Lots of warping and lag
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2009, 01:50:51 PM »
You can try the PC2-5400 RAM. However, there are no guarantees that it will run as fast as it's designed to. Your system is so old I doubt it will support faster memory forcing it to run at slower speeds.
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