new update

[xOLLYx]

so the new update is here with 2 new planes but hows your frame rate am getting 22-45fps in defalut but if i go into graphic detail then click advanced and turn off detailed water and local water refections i get 60-70fps and theres a lot who get less(low end pcs)i can see lots of people leaving unless HTC sort something out fast heres my pc anyone think how to inprove my fps in defalut

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System Information
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Time of this report: 7/29/2009, 13:36:52
       Machine name: BRIAN-PC
   Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Acer               
       System Model: Aspire M5100
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
             Memory: 3326MB RAM
          Page File: 1320MB used, 5581MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: Radeon X1650 Series
     Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
        Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x7181)
         DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7181&SUBSYS_5920174B&REV_00
   Display Memory: 1662 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 254 MB
    Shared Memory: 1407 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
      Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.cap,atitmmxx.dll
   Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0643 (English)
      DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 2/4/2009 04:43:08, 3903488 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-32C1-11CF-7876-2A79A1C2CA35}
        Vendor ID: 0x1002
        Device ID: 0x7181
        SubSys ID: 0x5920174B
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
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     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled

[Kazaa]

Radeon X1650 Series

How about you treat yourself to a new graphics card ? The payoff would be huge.

[BaldEagl]

Your video card is your current bottleneck.  You need to be careful if you consider an upgrade to make sure you have the power supply to run a new card.  Most require 350-400W minimum or higher and about 26 amps on the +12V rail(s).

[hitech]

60-70fps and theres a lot who get less(low end pcs)i can see lots of people leaving unless HTC sort something out fast heres my pc anyone think how to inprove my fps

Wow are you serious, you get 60 + fps with only turning off water and you want me to change something?



HiTech

[SunBat]

Wow are you serious, you get 60 + fps with only turning off water and you want me to change something?



HiTech

Amen

[Skuzzy]

Couple of quick things to try.

1)  Make sure the ATI Catalyst Control Center is not running in the system tray!  That costs a good chunk of your video card's performance.

2)  In Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Services (have to set the Control Panel to "Classic View"), disable "Superfetch" and "ReadyBoost".  Disabling these will not impact any other application.  For laptops, it can by back quite a bit of lost performance after you first start the computer.

3)  Unload iTunes if it is installed.  It will, not "can", but will, hurt your computer performance as well.

4)  Make sure the game is not installed in the "Program Files" folder.  In Vista and Windows 7, there is a performance penalty for anything installed in that folder.

[Dragon]

Wow are you serious, you get 60 + fps with only turning off water and you want me to change something?



HiTech

   That's what I was thinking too.

[gyrene81]

HiTech and company, you're gonna get a lot of posts like this from people using low end computers like xOLLYx...

That is an Acer Aspire 5100 that uses a video chipset and a shared video memory system like most laptops...not a dedicated video card.

CNET Review:

Aside from its quad-core AMD Phenom 9500 CPU and 3GB of RAM, the Aspire M5100 is similar to most other standard $400-to-$700 PCs. You typically won't find graphics cards, dual hard drives, TV tuners, Blu-ray drives, or wireless networking in this price range, but what you get is a solid workaday computer that, short of gaming or intense multimedia editing, is capable of performing most tasks you'd expect it to.

Card name: Radeon X1650 Series
Display Memory: 1662 MB
Dedicated Memory: 254 MB <---this is on the mobo as part of the video chip system
Shared Memory: 1407 MB <---this is part of the system memory

The fact that he's getting 60 frames is pretty good considering the specs on that system...

[xOLLYx]

Wow are you serious, you get 60 + fps with only turning off water and you want me to change something?



HiTech

i can live with that but just wanted to know if theres anyway to inprove fps with all the bells and whistles clicked on i do have itunes(have ipod) but i dont have  ATI Catalyst Control Center has i know it eats away performance and i have installed it in data drive no where near Program Files found out the hard way once  ttrying to update a game for hours till someone tolded me about Vista mmmm xmas list 1 new video card looks like only op

[xOLLYx]

HiTech and company, you're gonna get a lot of posts like this from people using low end computers like xOLLYx...

That is an Acer Aspire 5100 that uses a video chipset and a shared video memory system like most laptops...not a dedicated video card.

CNET Review:



Card name: Radeon X1650 Series
Display Memory: 1662 MB
Dedicated Memory: 254 MB <---this is on the mobo as part of the video chip system
Shared Memory: 1407 MB <---this is part of the system memory

The fact that he's getting 60 frames is pretty good considering the specs on that system...

there is a card in mine i have opened my pc up to put in more ram and seen the card just looks like a need to get a more upto date card

[gyrene81]

there is a card in mine i have opened my pc up to put in more ram and seen the card just looks like a need to get a more upto date card

Did you buy it that way? Because those low end ATI x12/13/16 series video cards are typically a chip on the mobo (especially in low end Acer, HP, etc...)...

If you're planning on buying a new card...be aware, you are going to need an AGP graphics card and finding a quality one that old is going to be tough...try this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%201069609639&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Pagesize=100

[Yeager]

I was only able to spend a few minutes on last night.  Definately going to need my planned upgrade.  My 512 MB Vcard and 1 gig sysmen arent going to cut it anymore. 

[gyrene81]

I was only able to spend a few minutes on last night.  Definately going to need my planned upgrade.  My 512 MB Vcard and 1 gig sysmen arent going to cut it anymore. 

Yeager...I have a 512MB vid card too and I'm not having too much of an issue. What are your system specs?

[BaldEagl]

I was only able to spend a few minutes on last night.  Definately going to need my planned upgrade.  My 512 MB Vcard and 1 gig sysmen arent going to cut it anymore. 

512 mb is pretty standard so it's not the amount of video memory that's causing your problem.  Another 1Gb of system memory would be a big plus though.