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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2009, 07:10:27 PM »
CV capable P-47s NO

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2009, 07:17:09 PM »
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2009, 09:08:40 PM »
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2009, 10:27:36 PM »
Looks like they can make it off a CV with a DT on. :aok
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2009, 11:37:43 PM »
We also need the carrier B-25
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2009, 05:28:07 AM »
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2009, 11:54:51 PM »
i saw a show about the p47, and it showed a model that was modifyed to launch off a carrier deck. i was wondering if there could be a version of the p47 that could do this.

also, i saw on dogfights, a jappanese rocket plane called the ohka. in the real world, it was basically a piloted bomb, used strictly for kamakazie attacks. i was wondering if we could fit it with a 30 mil, or something along those lines.  

Great idea on the P-47's, Bad bad bad bad idea on the Ohka.  Then there would be a hundred newbs flyin them into cv's and hangars and everything else.
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2009, 11:57:07 PM »
Great idea on the P-47's, Bad bad bad bad idea on the Ohka.  Then there would be a hundred newbs flyin them into cv's and hangars and everything else.

Good idea on the P-47 though.
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2009, 01:35:38 AM »
Historically, the P47 off the cv deck was, as ack-ack said, a way to ferry a bunch of P47s to an island out in the pacific and have them ready to fly in combat right away.   Other planes were shipped overseas too but then had to undergo a fairly labor-intensive process of assembly and cleaning (to remove the anti-corrosives that kept the salt spray from damaging parts) before they could be used.   Shuttling P47s on the deck of a carrier meant they could be landed on the newly captured island (I think it was Saipan but may be mistaken), armed, fueled and ready to fight in a much shorter time.    Having CV based P47s would be less historically accurate than CV based B25s, which I think is a stretch too since it was only done once.   The kamikaze rocket is an interesting idea...maybe there should be an option to use any Japanese plane as a kamikaze plane, with more damage being done than just the normal bomb damage.   Maybe select the option to make it a kamikaze mission in the hangar, double the normal amount of damage, and make it so normal landing isn't allowed (you just auger as soon as you touch the ground or water even if slow and gear down).
For those of us that prefer historically significant plane and vehicle types, the numbers would point to the kamikaze as a realistic option if it's technically possible to add this type of mission:  around 3,900 kamikaze pilots lost by the Japanese forces, and depending on who's counting anywhere from 50 to 70 US ships sunk or damaged beyond repair.  I think that's at least as important to the way WW2 played out as the ME-163 and 262s were.

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2009, 07:44:29 AM »
The 325th FG's P-40s was ferried to N Africa aboard the USS Ranger. Flying off to operate from their assigned land bases.




Just because USAAF aircraft were ferried to the front is not a reason to allow them to operate from CVs in the sim. These operations were one shot deals ran out of necessity only.
Because Army aircraft were aboard taking up valuable deck space the CV's were basically useless until they could get rid of their passengers.

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2009, 07:48:37 AM »
But I saw this plane, it would be so cool for AH!  Why do you all say no? :(

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2009, 08:05:03 AM »
For those of us that prefer historically significant plane and vehicle types, the numbers would point to the kamikaze as a realistic option if it's technically possible to add this type of mission:  around 3,900 kamikaze pilots lost by the Japanese forces, and depending on who's counting anywhere from 50 to 70 US ships sunk or damaged beyond repair.  I think that's at least as important to the way WW2 played out as the ME-163 and 262s were.

We already have Kamikazes in the form of dive bombing Lancasters. If you want historically correct Kamikazes then the only aircraft in the sim allowed to do it should be the A6M,D3A, and B5N.
Then once the pilot has successfully completed his Kamikaze attack he should not be allowed to fly those aircraft again for 24 hours or have them heavily perked. People wanting kamikazes isn't so much for realisim it's mainly another form of of instant success requiring little or no skill. YMMV.

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2009, 08:07:33 AM »
We already have Kamikazes in the form of dive bombing Lancasters. If you want historically correct Kamikazes then the only aircraft in the sim allowed to do it should be the A6M,D3A, and B5N.
Then once the pilot has successfully completed his Kamikaze attack he should not be allowed to fly those aircraft again for 24 hours or have them heavily perked. People wanting kamikazes isn't so much for realisim it's mainly another form of of instant success requiring little or no skill. YMMV.

Every plane in this game has been used for kamikaze attacks.
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2009, 08:35:18 AM »
I realize this Gavagai. We don't have the true kamikaze attack option because of the limitations placed on bomb detonation in the sim.
Personally I hope we never do. However I appreciate you pointing out the obvious.  :aok

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2009, 04:22:03 PM »
But I saw this plane, it would be so cool for AH!  Why do you all say no? :(

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haha, talk about ultimate cv killer :rofl