Author Topic: Stupid Nik Tricks #1 (Read 1242 times)

SOB · « **Reply #30 on:** September 03, 2001, 05:12:00 PM »

I agree, Swager is a dweeb.

And all of this is pointless, since the N1K is being looked at by Pyro and any necessary fixes to it's FM will be included with 1.08. And by that time, Tac will STILL not have any legitimate film of the Niki doing anything out of the ordinary. The only thing left to wonder about is what will happen after it's fixed, but it's still the impressively performing plane that it was in WWII?

SOB

-dead- · « **Reply #31 on:** September 04, 2001, 11:56:00 AM »

Perk the damn thing! 100 points
The Ta-152 sucks and it's perked - so why isn't the best plane in the whole planeset!?!
The thing is damn fast and handles better than a zero. The only thing that stops it being the only plane anyone ever flys is the embarrassment factor...

Fatty · « **Reply #32 on:** September 04, 2001, 12:07:00 PM »

I'm curious how a plane 7th among fighters k/d (11th if you count perk planes) equates to "the best plane in the whole planeset."

Believe me, if it was half as good as you think it is, I would be flying it exclusively just for the whine factor. I may start doing that anyway, but I prefer to fly better planes (no, not more challenging, better as in easier to kill and live).

SOB · « **Reply #33 on:** September 04, 2001, 12:56:00 PM »

Dead, any time you're up to I, I'd be happy to up in the dueling arena with you and you can show me how the N1K "handles" better than the Zero. No running either, since the N1K "handles" better, turnfighting only.

SOB

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #34 on:** September 04, 2001, 01:20:00 PM »

I love N1K2s! They taste a lot like chicken.

<URRRRPP>

Oddly, I've never had any problems roping N1Ks. It's just a matter of knowing the plane's flight envelope. If you're consistently amazed that it's climbing to you or hanging on its prop too well or otherwise, then you're doing something wrong. Even if it is a UFO, which I don't think it is, it must have consistent flight characteristics. The key is to figure out what those are and adjust your flying style accordingly. You'll never be amazed if you know what to expect.

-- Todd/DMF

Dmitry · « **Reply #35 on:** September 04, 2001, 02:10:00 PM »

Still Urchin should be happy... cause rope and dope N1Ks are so fun in Ta152.... Its my belive that Ta152 has the better prop hanging than any other planes in AH...

-dead- · « **Reply #36 on:** September 04, 2001, 03:51:00 PM »

Ahem OK well I was a little bit hasty to ire...

However after a quick look at the last 3 tours:

N1K2 has 24024 Kills of All models   All models have 21944 Kills of N1K2    Tour 19
N1K2 has 20274 Kills of All models   All models have 17919 Kills of N1K2    Tour 18
N1K2 has 18716 Kills of All models   All models have 15382 Kills of N1K2    Tour 17

The N1k2 kills more that it gets killed for every plane apart from the perked boys: F4U1C, Ta152, Tempest; The other HO beasts: Typhoon, the Fw190A5,A8,D9 - which mostly proves it isn't wonderful at them dodgy old HOs, and I guess N1K jocks (bless them) haven't learnt that yet...
And then these 3: Ki61, P47d11, Yak9U (what these signifies I dunno, but I like those d11s

And the plane that killed the most N1K2s over the past 3 tours?
That'd be the N1K2 - by some bizarre coincidence.

As to the Zeke challenge - ahem well I put my mouth into gear before engaging the grey cells

What I meant by that filthy, slanderous comment is the few times I've tried a N1k2 out it seemed to do everything exactly how I wanted it to - which is completely impossible in any other plane, because they hasve this distressing habit of slowing down, stalling, spinning, bleeding E and those other plane-like things.

So I still maintain that the FM appears to have leant a bit too far towards arcade mode...

All that said, the biggest reason I'd be in favour of perking it is to just see a few more people out of the N1K and in something else just for a bit of variety.

So I still say perk the damn thing.

<paints self white to deflect blast>

Fatty · « **Reply #37 on:** September 04, 2001, 04:07:00 PM »

So let me get this straight, you're saying this plane is some sort of uber-unstoppable beast? All of what you say sounds nice and uber, as long as you ignore the fact there are many planes that exceed those stats in ever category except total kills.

n1k2 has 295 kills of the 190A5.
190a5 has 442 kills of the n1k2.

n1k2 has 267 kills of the 190a8.
190a8 has 267 kills of the n1k2 (surely we must perk this uber a8 as well).

n1k has 344 kills of the 190d9.
190d9 has 551 kills of the n1k2.

n1k2 has 353 kills of the ki-61
ki-61 has 509 kills of the n1k2 (so much for the turning argument)

n1k2 has 153 kills of the p47-d11
p47d11 has 168 kills of the n1k2

n1k2 has 1470 kills of the p51d
p51d has 1526 kills of the n1k2

n1k2 has 515 kills of the typhoon
typhoon has 684 kills of the n1k2

n1k2 has 308 kills of the yak-9u.
yak-9u has 312 kills of the n1k2.

Tac · « **Reply #38 on:** September 04, 2001, 04:34:00 PM »

Fatty, stats say whatever you want. How many times have you seen a 190 used as field defense when that field is overwhelmingly capped and only 25% fuel left? Which plane is commonly seen in a vulch or field jabo? the 190.

It is also surprising to see how the n1k fared against the P-51 in your stats. Now thats a plane rarely used for field defense or low alt furballing, not to mention that, in my experience, most P-51's out there know what they're doing.

Try to read between the lines.

Fatty · « **Reply #39 on:** September 04, 2001, 04:40:00 PM »

I'm just posting the stats dead used when he said "The n1k2 rules every plane, except the ones it doesn't". Paraphrased, of course.

In fact, I agree with you. If it was not that a6ms and spitVs were used so much for field defense, I believe they would be ahead of the n1k2 as well.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #40 on:** September 04, 2001, 04:46:00 PM »

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Originally posted by -dead-:
[QBAll that said, the biggest reason I'd be in favour of perking it is to just see a few more people out of the N1K and in something else just for a bit of variety.
[/QB]

Hmmm mmmmm.... You're not playing the same Aces High as me... or atleast the same Aces High I've been playing since Beta Tour 2....

More people out of the N1K2= more people into the Spitfire MkIX.

I said it before when the F4U-1C was getting perked... you perk the F4U-1C and the next plane(s) with percieved advantages (real or not) will be the next plane(s) every is trying to get perked.

A few months pass and the N1K2 becomes the topic of perking...

You are dillusional if you honestly believe perking any plane will force people into a variety of other ones. They are flying that one plane because of one reason: It works well for them. They will just find the next plane... whether it be the SpitIX or Ki61.. or something that comes with 1.08, I don't know. But I do know for sure that the only thing that will change when you perk the N1K2 is the title of these threads.... You simply replace N1K2 with whatever is next on the hit list and I guarantee you 2 or 3 months down the road that popular plane is getting cries for perkage.

Tour 19:akswulfe has 12 kills and has been killed 2 times against the N1K2.

Tour 18:akswulfe has 14 kills and has been killed 4 times against the N1K2.

Tour 17:akswulfe has 12 kills and has been killed 7 times against the N1K2.

Tour 16:akswulfe has 16 kills and has been killed 2 times against the N1K2.

Tour 15:akswulfe has 2 kills and has been killed 3 times against the N1K2.
Tour15:Stain has 12 kills and has been killed 1 time against the N1K2.

Tour 14:akswulfe has 12 kills and has been killed 5 times against the N1K2.
Tour 14:Stain has 3 kills and has been killed 0 times against the N1K2.

Tour13:Akswulfe has 4 kills and has been killed 4 times against the N1K2.

Tour12: AKSWulfe has 27 kills and has been killed 11 times against the N1K2.

Tour11:AKSWulfe has 7 kills and has been killed 3 times against the N1K2.

Tour10:AKSWulfe has 15 kills and has been killed 5 times against the N1K2.

Tour9: AKSWulfe has 45 kills and has been killed 16 times against the N1K2.

That's enough... I think you get the point.
-SW

SOB · « **Reply #41 on:** September 04, 2001, 05:24:00 PM »

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Originally posted by -dead-:
As to the Zeke challenge - ahem well I put my mouth into gear before engaging the grey cells

Well toejam, I was looking forward to actually getting some kills for once! Thanks a lot!

SOB

BTW Tac, I use the P51b for base defence all the time, and I generally have no idea what I'm doing. Of course, I probably don't fit into the "most" category

oki · « **Reply #42 on:** September 05, 2001, 02:49:00 PM »

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