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Sherman shell drop comparison
« Reply #105 on: August 01, 2009, 04:26:22 AM »
Here are some pictures. Unfortunately the "holes" tank shells are producing are small as BB hits so I had to mark them for easier spotting

the method again:

1) making sure that the head position relative to gunsight is the same in both versions. I always move my head fully in, so i made sure both tanks were set up the same way.
2) select a base with a northern coastline to have unobstructed view to the target
3) roll into position
4) set .target 1000
5) aim at a clearly defined point with thecenter of your gunsight as a reference, just in case there is any difference in the range ladders between both versions

Version 2.13:


Version 2.14


Both views zoomed fully in. We can see that the gunsight marks are identical on both versions by the way.

6) fire

7) .set target to 200 to determine the point of impact. Take a screenshot.(If you have trouble seeing the point, moving the view (or scrolling across a zoomed in screenshot) will help you)

Version 2.13


Version 2.14


You see: both hits are almost on the same spot, just above the second target circle from outside.

Everybody that doubt these pictures can easily check himself by following the above steps.
In case you don't have 2.13 anymore: http://downloads1.hitechcreations.com/AH2131.EXE

Please don't hesitate to point out any flaw in my concept or present different results.  That's why we do such stuff.





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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #106 on: August 01, 2009, 05:41:03 AM »
Could it be the difference in the tiles used in the new version?

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #107 on: August 01, 2009, 06:50:26 AM »
For me its more a combination of the stutters and now I cant even gv normally.  It wasnt about camping and such it was more about seeing that gv and knowing where to aim, now i'm all messed up.
adapt, overcome......This new version has alot of things that seem different, my depth perception is way off with the water so I keep augering, water isnt moving up it just seems like it is  :aok
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #108 on: August 01, 2009, 09:36:47 AM »
Can anyone compare the trajectory of the old and new sherman?  The old sherman round fired very flat and didnt arc much like the panzer does.  It seems to arc alot now, this would throw off aim because its harder to hit an exact target with a mortar than a cannon.

If I am 10 yards short or 10 yards long because of the curvature that could be whats leading me to see it as nerfed.

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #109 on: August 01, 2009, 11:07:07 AM »
When youve GVed as long as i have. and most GVers. you see the tank, and right off, you know about how far out it is. by sight only. you dont need to see the buildings or trees to get a guess. the GV tells us all we need to know. 2 shots max is all it takes. 1st shot is always a range shot. but now, is seems more like i was throwing curve balls out there. something does seem off with them

That is exactaly it. I can range someone in 1 shot and the 2nd shot is the kill shot. Sometimes I dont even need the 1st shot to range someone. <S> Btw. But after this new upgrade I guess HTC messed with the resolution of the game making everyones resoultion default to the max. So when they did that it made my game look weird to me. So I had to get used to it. But I have seen that the Sherman has been shooting alittle wierd. The rounds droping a few yards then usual.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #110 on: August 01, 2009, 11:40:08 AM »
the graphics upgrade has thrown off my visual references while in a GV.  as a dedicated base porker, I wanna get as close as i can w/o setting off the auto-ack, esp if i'm in a M8. still trying to suss out where that is with the new graphics. everything looks closer, prolly due to the sharper video resolution.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #111 on: August 01, 2009, 11:45:27 AM »
everything looks closer, prolly due to the sharper video resolution.

Maybe that is the answer to the 8 page question.  Maybe it just looks closer, and therefore they don't aim as far as they need to.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #112 on: August 01, 2009, 11:58:29 AM »
Can anyone compare the trajectory of the old and new sherman? 
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #113 on: August 01, 2009, 12:06:05 PM »
adapt, overcome......This new version has alot of things that seem different, my depth perception is way off with the water so I keep augering, water isnt moving up it just seems like it is  :aok

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As far as the Sherman I see no difference, and have been getting kills with no issues.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #114 on: August 01, 2009, 12:28:11 PM »
Can anyone compare the trajectory of the old and new sherman? 

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That's what I did! Both versions have identical points of impact both at 1000 as well as 2000 yards...
So as we have 3 identical points on the trajectories, we can say: Nothing has changed.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #115 on: August 01, 2009, 12:58:42 PM »
Because the terrain model just updated, your experience in "knowing" a GV's range by looking is void and null. The terrain just changed as did many other aspect of the way the game works, once you get use to it you will be able to judge the distance by looking once again.

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #116 on: August 01, 2009, 01:11:23 PM »
It going to be interesting to see someother comments.

My guess is its an optical illusion having to do with the new terrain.

They did say that they changed the color and "Materials" of the Sherman...............What does "Materials" mean?

I must say everything is clearer and sharper on my end Im not having any ranging problems that I am aware of, but then again I miss all the time anyways.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #117 on: August 01, 2009, 01:14:32 PM »
They did say that they changed the color and "Materials" of the Sherman...............What does "Materials" mean?

That's some optical properties.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #118 on: August 01, 2009, 01:17:25 PM »
optical .........................upgr aded the optics on the Sherman?    or changed optically the look of the Sherman?
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #119 on: August 01, 2009, 01:18:48 PM »
optical .........................upgr aded the optics on the Sherman?    or changed optically the look of the Sherman?

"Materials" in 3d rendering are responsible for how the object is interacting with light. In other words, how it does look-
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