Author Topic: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy  (Read 1210 times)

Offline A8Jaraxl

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Re: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2009, 11:55:30 AM »
The H.I.S. IceQ4 Turbo cards are factory overclocked and by a pretty significant amount.

Yes they are, and it is why the heatsink and Fan are so complicated compared to most other Video cards. This also has a great deal to do with the components they use in the card which are much more resistant to heat then other cards. This is a great card for anyone with the spare change to buy it. One of the best bangs for you buck in most area's where video cards are concerned.

The only problem I have seen with them is when people use them without enough airflow through their PC. I have seen people revert back to the idea of a negative case pressure, which with machines now day is not required, fans are now strong enough to move enough air mass to clean sweep the PC in terms of heat exchanging.


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Re: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2009, 09:38:06 PM »
I would like to clarify about the DDR3 mentioned (both dual and tri) here a few times.  Most people that purchase memory do so on a recommendation or review of others.  What most fail to actually know is that any memory over 1333MHz is Overclocked.  If you were to purchase DDR3 2000MHz and place it on a lower end MB chances are you will never see the memory's full performance.  This is a BIOS tweak and from what I have learned here on these boards we have some folks that are great NewEgg shoppers but not so good at putting components together that will make a system fast.

I see tons of this is a good deal on and this has a rebate, it should be, will this recommendation work well with the other components of their/my system.  There is a whole lot more to specking, building and have the best bang for your buc then naming parts off of a sale sheet or this is my budget I will get this.  All components need to work together and compliment each other to have a truly effective and performance minded system.

Since the release of the new, and in my opinion highly improved AH, I have messing with components that will build a very fast, stable, run AH full bore system.  I am close but no cigar yet.  In today's economy when making recommendations to others for systems or components, ask yourself first... do I know for sure that this will do as I state for __________ systems, if not I will buy the component to get ___________ his/her monies back.  Some folks have max FRs of 35 and they are happy with that, some are used to 60FR so recommending something that will only give them a FR of 55 does not cut it.  Think and be sure before making statements.

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Re: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2009, 12:28:31 AM »
It's obvious that you are fairly ignorant of the PC market.

Anyone who buys a system that is so far behind today's standards just to save a mere $50 is making an extremely foolish purchasing decision in the long term.

Is everyone here just a kid that uses his system for playing games?   Many folks use their computers for many other applications also.


Of course a 64 bit OS eliminates all of this but it won't be compatible with some legacy applications.

It is you who is the one who is ignoring the most obvious fact that both the initially recommended HP and also the Gateway that I mentioned BOTH ship with 64 bit Vista installed.  Your claim that the extra 1 Gig of RAM that the Gateway has is irrelevant is thus completely bogus and is factually incorrect.


Hard drive size is simply a matter of personal preference and need.  While it's true that hard drives have become larger and less expensive, most people wouldn't even use 320 Gb.  I have three computers at home (single guy); a laptop, and old Dell desktop and a newer hand built gaming rig.  I have over 2 Tb of drive space between them which is overkill.  When I networked these I intended to digitize my music collection (which I haven't gotten around to yet).  I calculated that I could fit all of my 2000+ CD's on just over 200 Gb of drive space.

Again, you seem to be assuming that everyone here is a teenager who just uses his computer to just play games or listen to pirated music.   Any adult who is into photography could easily use that space.   If you are into videography, then even that amount is going to be very inadequate.

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Re: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2009, 01:43:51 AM »
Anyone who buys a system that is so far behind today's standards just to save a mere $50 is making an extremely foolish purchasing decision in the long term.

Is everyone here just a kid that uses his system for playing games?   Many folks use their computers for many other applications also.


It is you who is the one who is ignoring the most obvious fact that both the initially recommended HP and also the Gateway that I mentioned BOTH ship with 64 bit Vista installed.  Your claim that the extra 1 Gig of RAM that the Gateway has is irrelevant is thus completely bogus and is factually incorrect.


Again, you seem to be assuming that everyone here is a teenager who just uses his computer to just play games or listen to pirated music.   Any adult who is into photography could easily use that space.   If you are into videography, then even that amount is going to be very inadequate.

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I'm not arguing that your Gateway computer might be a better choice than the HP mentioned.  In fact I never spec'd out or priced either system.

I was arguing your highlights that quad cores, DDR3 and 4 Gb of memory with massive drives are now the standards. 

In your reply you did nothing to rebuff these arguments.  You simply took offense at being called ignorant and wrote a straw-man rebuff.  How does being called ignorent feel?  Probably the same to you as the person that you levied that insult on huh?

Now, come back with some real evidence that you were right on your key points and I might listen to you in the future but I already know for a fact you're just blowing smoke trying to look like you know what your talking about in an effort to degrade another person and feel superior yourself.

BTW, I've hung around this forum long enough that I know that yes, 80% of those inquiring about systems are only concerned with running this game effectively.

I can't wait for you to bless us again with your supeior technical knowledge.

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BTW; Buy that quad core DDR3 4 Gb Gateway and benchmark it.  I'll bench my dual core DDR2 system and we'll see who's faster ok?
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Re: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2009, 01:49:18 AM »
You're both way off! The cardinal mistake is to buy a branded box in the first place.  :t
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Re: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2009, 05:11:58 AM »
Thats true in my world too Ripley. Except in laptops the little things are hard to improve on... for me.
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Re: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2009, 05:16:50 AM »
Thats true in my world too Ripley. Except in laptops the little things are hard to improve on... for me.

There are no brand diy laptop barebones available. But they're sold so little that they're not necessarily at all cheaper than getting a branded one.
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Re: PLEASE read thisB4uSpend$or Quit=) ty ,elfy
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2009, 07:56:43 AM »
You're both way off! The cardinal mistake is to buy a branded box in the first place.  :t

Where in my arguments have I advocated buying an off the shelf box?  Quotes please.
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