Would like some 109 training

[BaldEagl]

I really love the K4 and you can muscle it around in a turn fight much better than most suspect if you use the huge torque that the engine produces to your advantage.  Of course that huge torque can also work against you so throttle and rudder in particular are very important in the K4.

I've fought Agent a few times in various Spits vs his K4 and we've had some pretty long fights so I know what the K4 is capable of.  In fact, I took a tip from Agent one day and entered a couple of turn fights in the K4 at 50% throttle (I actually fought one at 30-40%) and never touched the throttle again after setting it at the beginning of the fight.  At those settings the K4 is still quite a capable killer and you have to turn because you can't run at those settings.

[Bosco123]

I think anyone for the Muppets can be considerd the best 109 sticks in the game. Got taught by Dutchie.

[Enker]

I think anyone for the Muppets can be considerd the best 109 sticks in the game. Got taught by Dutchie.

QFT Scotch is deadly when you see him.

[sunfan1121]

I know any muppet would be glad to help you out. Most of us play in the evening time.

[Bosco123]

QFT Scotch is deadly when you see him.

Best I saw was Fester, but he dosn't play anymore

[texastc316]

Fester was on last night

[Cajunn]

K4 all the way, you want to learn the 109's you might as well learn how to fly the "beast"!! K4 has been given a bad rap when it comes to maneuverability, though It's not the best it is good enough! and the extra speed, acceleration and climb rate make up for what it lacks in maneuverability. The 30mm is the big obstacle in this plane, but once you get use to it, the game is on!


Cajunn

[Scotch]

Suns is the only other k4 stick that consistently gave me doubts at winning in a duel. We usually went 50/50...and sometimes our duels could last 10minutes. I have a good film of that.
There's a few others that are all right there though. Mostly squadies...But guys like Mondego should be a decent challenge too. He flew a lot last I was on.

I'll probably be back flying in two months or so once Albacore season slows down. We'll have to duel more.
I remember I do have a couple films of dueling you though Trig. When I get back to my desktop pc I'll try to post them. It might be another week or two though.

[Tr1gg22]

Suns is the only other k4 stick that consistently gave me doubts at winning in a duel. We usually went 50/50...and sometimes our duels could last 10minutes. I have a good film of that.
There's a few others that are all right there though. Mostly squadies...But guys like Mondego should be a decent challenge too. He flew a lot last I was on.

I'll probably be back flying in two months or so once Albacore season slows down. We'll have to duel more.
I remember I do have a couple films of dueling you though Trig. When I get back to my desktop pc I'll try to post them. It might be another week or two though.

that would be cool  ty scotch.... I remember we dueled k-4's one time... Post them if u still have them...   

[Scotch]

Back on the desktop. I had deleted a bunch of films but still had the one with our duels.
It's about 11minutes long, 3mb in size.

http://dasmuppets.com/public/Scotch/tr1gg.ahf
(Right click, Save As)

Make sure to check the box that lets you see my views. You'll be able to see how I'm setting up my shots. Hopefully you'll also be able to see why and when you ended up in my gunsights. 

I'm going to spend a little time reviewing some of the film I still have and probably post some more k4 flying.

[grizz441]

Suns is the only other k4 stick that consistently gave me doubts at winning in a duel

 

[killnu]

but the G14 doesnt have as much power at the lower levels giving the K4 the ability to get out of hordes and gangs

IIRC they have near identical performance numbers below 10k...I prefer the G14 majority of the time.  It will give a K4 all it can handle and then some. 

[Anaxogoras]

K-4 is faster at all altitudes.  G-14 equals it in low altitude climb.  Military power performance of K-4 is also much better than G-14.

[Agent360]

The g14 has a little better natural turn ability than the k4 but its not as fast or as powerful.

The power to weight ratio of the k4 is higher than the g14 and the k4 is faster. The speed and climb charts make it look like they are very close. But in actual flying, the K4 will out perform all other 109's.

The main reason is the k4 is faster. This translates into ZOOM climb. The second reason is the power. At faster speed the k4 can escape up and control the seperation. At slow speeds the K4 can hang on the prop longer, stay in a controlled scissing stall and still go up and over.

I am more concerned with a 109G2 than the 109g14 when fighting them in a k4.

The G14 is a very good plane. The second fastest 109. But fellas it just aint no k4. Fly the g14 long enough and you will find your self thinking "If I was in a k4 I could have pulled that off"

The g14 offers 20mm and 30mm guns. If I had 20mm in the k4....ohhh the horrer..

[Ardy123]

I'm a fan of the g2 and the g14, I also like the K4 but its good to 'work your way up'. Each 109 version takes more attention to throttle management, flaps, etc... But rock on in the 109 once you get it down, you'll own the skies.