New to AH. Joystick wont work

[knucklebutt]

Skuzzy:  O.K. this is getting even more "wierd"

I re- downloaded AH.
Options: controllers: map controllers
both Saitek and CH pedals are present
X52  "y" mapped to analog elevator = the numbers move when stick is moved
X52 "X" mapped to analog Aileron = numbers move
X52   "Z" rotation not used and mapped and "None"     I use rudder pedals
X52  "z" axis   mapped as RPM 1  numbers move as throttle move

CH Pedals  "Z" axis  mapped to Yaw (rudder)   numbers move
CH Pedals  "y" axis  mapped to Brake Right   Numbers move
CH Pedals   "x" Axis mapped to Brake Left  numbers move

Default is not checked   

Now !!!!!!!!  what I get is ::::::::   my ailerons move  as do my Elevators  Now ! the Rudder will not move

Note :  I dont think the brakes ever did work

Also Note  engine starts automaticaly: however moving the throttle on the X52 does nothing untill (get this)
I hit (shift  +) about twich to increase RPM then my X52 throttle kicks in

So  thats today:  and Skuzzy  I'm sure you are bored and have nothing to do today: probably why God created me ????

Thanks again

Denis

[Stogie]

Skuzzy:  O.K. this is getting even more "wierd"

I re- downloaded AH.
Options: controllers: map controllers
both Saitek and CH pedals are present
X52  "y" mapped to analog elevator = the numbers move when stick is moved
X52 "X" mapped to analog Aileron = numbers move
X52   "Z" rotation not used and mapped and "None"     I use rudder pedals
X52  "z" axis   mapped as RPM 1  numbers move as throttle move

CH Pedals  "Z" axis  mapped to Yaw (rudder)   numbers move
CH Pedals  "y" axis  mapped to Brake Right   Numbers move
CH Pedals   "x" Axis mapped to Brake Left  numbers move

Default is not checked   

Now !!!!!!!!  what I get is ::::::::   my ailerons move  as do my Elevators  Now ! the Rudder will not move

Note :  I dont think the brakes ever did work

Also Note  engine starts automaticaly: however moving the throttle on the X52 does nothing untill (get this)
I hit (shift  +) about twich to increase RPM then my X52 throttle kicks in

So  thats today:  and Skuzzy  I'm sure you are bored and have nothing to do today: probably why God created me ????

Thanks again

Denis

Am I reading this wrong or are these settings completely wrong???

I would think he would want Z axis mapped to elevator just for a start

[Motherland]

Am I reading this wrong

This
Y is forward backward motion of the stick, x is left right tilt, and z is left right rotation- unless you like twist your stick for elevators he's got everything right.

[Motherland]

Now !!!!!!!!  what I get is ::::::::   my ailerons move  as do my Elevators  Now ! the Rudder will not move

Note :  I dont think the brakes ever did work

Also Note  engine starts automaticaly: however moving the throttle on the X52 does nothing untill (get this)
I hit (shift  +) about twich to increase RPM then my X52 throttle kicks in

So  thats today:  and Skuzzy  I'm sure you are bored and have nothing to do today: probably why God created me ????

Thanks again

Denis

Options> preferences> flight> un-check auto take off and stall limiter. Should help.

[knucklebutt]

Heres' more info

My keyboard commands for::::::
Rudder Left = A
Rudder Right = D
Rudder Center = S
Brake Right = V
Brake Left = C
Wheel Brake = SPACE

are also not working !

Denis 

[1701E]

Skuzzy:  O.K. this is getting even more "weird"

I re- downloaded AH.
Options: controllers: map controllers
both Saitek and CH pedals are present
X52  "y" mapped to analog elevator = the numbers move when stick is moved
X52 "X" mapped to analog Aileron = numbers move
X52   "Z" rotation not used and mapped and "None"     I use rudder pedals
X52  "z" axis   mapped as RPM 1  numbers move as throttle move  Gonna be explaining this Z Axis

CH Pedals  "Z" axis  mapped to Yaw (rudder)   numbers move
CH Pedals  "y" axis  mapped to Brake Right   Numbers move
CH Pedals   "x" Axis mapped to Brake Left  numbers move

Default is not checked   

Now, what I get is; my ailerons move, as do my Elevators.  Now the Rudder will not move, Note; I don't think the brakes ever did work

Also, Note engine starts automatically: however moving the throttle on the X52 does nothing until (get this) I hit (shift  +) about twich to increase RPM then my X52 throttle kicks in
[. . . .]
Thanks again
Denis

The "Z" (Throttle) you want set as 'throttle 1' not RPM 1.  RPM can be adjusted using the +/- on the Keypad.  The RPM will move with the Throttle (50% throttle = 50% RPM) but 50% RPM does not = 50% throttle.  This is due to being able to adjust RPM separate of Throttle, but not vice versa.
   Think of it this way:  A Car Gas pedal; The 'Throttle' is the Pedal, you can get the car to go as fast as it can by pressing that pedal down hard, now imagine a little knob on say the dashboard (RPM), that when cranked down will not allow you to reach the same speeds as before even though the pedal is pressed down, why?  Because you limited the Engine to that amount of RPM max, if you crank that back up you can get right back up to that top speed.  So while you want those RPMs high for speed you need that Pedal down.


As for the Rudder troubles, I'm not sure, I don't use a CH set.  Just make sure when you press the left or right Pedal they are the same Axis since AH doesn't support separate Axis Rudders.

Hope it helps.

[Delirium]

I'll look through my settings for my CH pedals when I get home, in the meantime if you move the pedals back and forth (not the toe brakes) you should see the axis number move. Just set the rudder to that axis once you have isolated which one it is.

[Bruv119]

welcome to aces high denis ..sure you will like it here. i also came over from fighter ace and never looked back. just wondering what was your call sign in FA and squad if you were in 1. i was with the demon dogs and hiredguns 

i just put 2 and 2 together!   Hey FG_Lazydog!!    man i'm slow sometimes.

I've helped quite a few guys re-map their functions and it has been straight forward and painless but what Denis is experiencing sounds odd.   hang in there and you will get it sorted.

[Skuzzy]

Once commands are mapped to the stick, the corresponding keybaord commands will no longer function.

By the way, did you happen to load both the stick managers from CH and Saitek?  That could be a problem.

Also note, are you absolutely sure you calibrated the CH pedals?  You can calibrate each axis using the "Calibrate Axis" button in the "Map Controllers" panel.  Try it with the rudder.

[Bruv119]

CH stuff doesn't need the control manager software unless you want different profiles set.

I have stick throttle and pedals all working fine.   done in game.

[Skuzzy]

You do not need any type of stick software loaded to make use of any USB connected stick, in Aces High.

[lazydog]

i just put 2 and 2 together!   Hey FG_Lazydog!!    man i'm slow sometimes.

I've helped quite a few guys re-map their functions and it has been straight forward and painless but what Denis is experiencing sounds odd.   hang in there and you will get it sorted.

yup thats it bruv.  i remember you too 

[knucklebutt]

O.K. Gang  a new day and I'm chipping away at all this;

Thanks to 1701E  my throttle now works. I had it assigned to "RPM1" not throttle 1.

The X 52 now works:  BUT !!!  (always a but!)  the CH pedals are not:  Now remember when I first started this thread:  The CH pedals worked but the X52 did not. now its switched.

again clipboard show all is working (per the numbers) and check my last post you can see where I have assigned everything:    O.K I'm ready !   whats next

Thanks

Denis

[Bruv119]

ok so the ch pedals appear in the drop down list of devices.  you have clicked on it and checked the advanced box,

when you push on the pedals the advanced box moves with the rudder set to (yaw) rudder?

you have calibrated the pedals? 

now the only other thing i can think of is that you have assigned the x52 to a different control mode.  all bits of kit need to be assigned to control mode 1 or whichever mode you wish to use for planes

[Skuzzy]

Uh, the plane throttle is "Throttle 1".  "RPM 1" is not throttle.