Author Topic: Fw 190G-8 (Read 1172 times)

funkedup · « **Reply #15 on:** November 29, 2001, 05:58:00 PM »

Niklas, the AH F-8 is modeled after the Smithsonian's Fw 190F-8/R1, which has no such intakes.

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R4M · « **Reply #16 on:** November 29, 2001, 06:00:00 PM »

Still, I'm wondering why a low-level attack plane will get those intakes, funked. I see no use for them...

funkedup · « **Reply #17 on:** November 29, 2001, 06:01:00 PM »

Those are the tropical filter intakes on the plane in that photo.

There were some similar looking intakes for high altitude usage (ram effect) but they are a little different.

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R4M · « **Reply #18 on:** November 29, 2001, 06:03:00 PM »

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Originally posted by funkedup:
They held air filters I think.

Ahhhhh I see

. Now it makes sense.

R4M · « **Reply #19 on:** December 04, 2001, 08:09:00 AM »

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ra · « **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2001, 11:52:00 AM »

R4M,

You can call this a 190F8, but it is a 190A5 test bed.

ra

R4M · « **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2001, 12:08:00 PM »

Test bed my prettythang, RA. You are right, that ain't no F8 (have found that pic captioned in one of my books and its an A5/U3 in Russia,summer 1943). But, incidentally there were lots of 190A5/U3s. Some of them doing low level jabo raids in southern england. Some of them flying in Russia. Some of them in the Med.

That became such a common "test bed", ra,that the germans decided to build it as a standard version instead of an Umrust-Bausatze. It was later also known as Fw190G3.

WIth time the 190G3 walked ahead towards other versions. The latter of them was the Fw190G8, wich also had wing ETC503 racks. Finally the G series was stopped and replaced by the F8/U1 series, wich, incidentally was virtually identical to the Fw190G8.

So, I repeat...test bed my prettythang,Ra. The Fw190A5/U3 saw widespread service.

The Fw190A5 in AH, BTW, also lacks the wing bomb racks of the U3 version. And the Fw190F8 lacks the wing DTs and 250kg bombs.

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ra · « **Reply #22 on:** December 04, 2001, 12:18:00 PM »

So it's an A5 after all? Then what are the bumps on the cowl?

ra

BTW, didn't you used to claim that it was a well established fact the the F8 came standard with the 250kg wing bombs/drop tanks? If so, why would they need to be 'modified' to become a G8?

I think the G8 would be nice to have in AH, though their history is even blurrier than the F8.

R4M · « **Reply #23 on:** December 04, 2001, 12:32:00 PM »

Fw190F8/U1 was almost identical to the Fw190G8. No modification needed to become a G8. At all. In fact was ALL the other way. The 190G series were abandoned and were continued in the 190F8. (for the sake of making a standard jabo version instead of the two, redundant, versions there were at the time, the F and G series).

I never said the F8 had the wing racks as standard. I said, however, that the F8/U1 did, as did the 190G8 before it. Both versions were operational during WWII and saw service.

To add a Fw190G8 would be absolutely redundant and a waste of effort, when you can get the same in the F8 without sacrifizing a single bit of historical accuracy. The Fw190F8 also carried wing racks for DT and 250kg bombs.

According to the caption of the book with that pic, that is a Jabo Fw190A5 deployed in russia during summer of 1943. Seeing the wing bombs, its plain to see it was a Fw190A5/U3 with ETC503 bomb racks, wich at that time was seeing service in several zones of war.
Another clue that is not an F is that it lacks the bubble canopy. I was wrong when I first found that pic (posted by laika as a F-8 in the link I gave). I soon noticed the lack of the bubble canopy, tho.

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funkedup · « **Reply #24 on:** December 04, 2001, 01:18:00 PM »

Pitot tube in the photo is on the right wing tip. That is a Fw 190F-8/U1 or a Fw 190G-8, or else some prototype based Fw 190A-8.

The bubble canopy was not used at the beginning of production for A-8 and the planes based on A-8 (F-8, G-8, D-9). If the plane has a bubble canopy you can be sure it is an A-8 or later. But the absence of the canopy does not always mean the plane is not A-8/F-8/G-8/D-9.

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SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #25 on:** December 04, 2001, 01:35:00 PM »

The FW is sooooo small that the bombs look big.

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butch2k · « **Reply #26 on:** December 04, 2001, 01:45:00 PM »

Oky guys time for me to show up

This is the Fw 190F-8/trop WkNr 580383 CM+WL (notice the under wing "C", no SG gruppe had a unit code beginning with C) which was used for test on weapon arrangement. So you might be able to find picture of this one with a large variety of racks including ETC 503, ETC 71, ER4 on ETC 501, Panzerschreck 2, etc...

R4M · « **Reply #27 on:** December 04, 2001, 02:14:00 PM »

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Originally posted by butch2k:
Oky guys time for me to show up

This is the Fw 190F-8/trop WkNr 580383 CM+WL (notice the under wing "C", no SG gruppe had a unit code beginning with C) which was used for test on weapon arrangement. So you might be able to find picture of this one with a large variety of racks including ETC 503, ETC 71, ER4 on ETC 501, Panzerschreck 2, etc...

...wich does not hurt the fact that the ETC503 racks were used operationally in the F8/U1

. Thanks for the identification butch!

Funked, that is a good one! I didnt notice the pitot tube thing.

Morale: seems that some books' captions really suck

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funkedup · « **Reply #28 on:** December 04, 2001, 03:07:00 PM »

Butch you are the man.

RAM I learned the hard way about captions.

Glasses · « **Reply #29 on:** December 04, 2001, 08:56:00 PM »

Stop the bickering and gimme the darned bombs. I need mein Jabo Wuerger with fries.