Originally posted by Reynolds
I think maybe at VERY close range the Firefly might take the King Tiger (Mind you, i know next to nothing about the firefly)
Then you shouldn't put down what you know nothing about.
King Tiger had max armor of 180mm or so in the front. Sides were about 80mm, which is no more than the Tiger I.
17 Pounder firing an APDS round (granddaddy to modern-day Sabot rounds) could penetrate 213mm armor at a range of 1000 meters.
Because of the slope of the armor in the front of the King Tiger, I don't know if the round would ricochet rather than penetrate, but a side or rear shot would destroy the TigerII easily at range.
Firefly would have to be perked, but I would love to see it. I would love even more to see as many variants of the Sherman as we have 109s or Spits, just to make it interesting. Personal favorite is the 105mm assault version for base blasting, with HEAT rounds for the pesky vehicles it would run into.