C. 205

[Nemisis]

I took it out for a spin a bit ago. I was just crusing in offline looking for some planes that I haven't flowen but are still capable. I took the C. 205 out and flew it and I loved it. I also haven't found any convergance issues with the guns even when set out to max. .50's in the nose, and cannons close to the fuselage. It seems like a capable fighter. Can anyone tell me some trouble spots before I take it out into the main arena?

[RipChord929]

Easy to loose a target under the nose.... Many times you are shooting at a target you can't even see...
1 notch of flaps, and the plane will almost "float" in the air, at very little airspeed...
Very bouncy on landing, and very bad visibility when taxiing... Longnose'itis again..
It compresses something aweful, trying to pull out, will snap elevator cables... Auger city!!!
Guns are Kickass, converged at 400yds, they give a great killshot...
Pretty good views from the cockpit...

I'm no expert fighter guy...
Love it tho, fly it all the time....

RC

[Krusty]

The cannons are not, in fact, close to the fuselage. They are outboard of the landing gear and well clear of the prop. You may have been thinking of the Fw190, which fires through the prop with its 20mm guns.

I'd suggest never ever using flaps, ever... Not even coming out of a loop. They are inefficient split flaps and this plane does not stall well. You pop flaps you better have no other move, because unless you get the kill instantly after doing so you've signed your death warrant.

[Widewing]

I'd suggest never ever using flaps, ever... Not even coming out of a loop. They are inefficient split flaps and this plane does not stall well. You pop flaps you better have no other move, because unless you get the kill instantly after doing so you've signed your death warrant.

Accurate description and good advice.....


My regards,

Widewing

[Ack-Ack]

I'd suggest never ever using flaps, ever... Not even coming out of a loop. They are inefficient split flaps and this plane does not stall well. You pop flaps you better have no other move, because unless you get the kill instantly after doing so you've signed your death warrant.

Accurate description and good advice.....


My regards,

Widewing

Yep, as soon as I see a C.205 that I'm engaged with deploy their flaps, I know that within the next turn or so he's going to be on the receiving end of a very nasty burst of 20mm and .50 cals.


ack-ack

[BaldEagl]

Funny but I just flew the 202 yesterday and the 205 today for the first time in a while. 

As others have already said do not use flaps.  If you get ham fisted and pull past the early stall buzzer you'll wobble or spin.  The 205 needs a smooth stick.  That said it turns pretty well in the early stall buzzer and has good acceleration and climb rate is in the upper tier with WEP on.  Rolling isn't the best but rudder assist will help.  It does stiffen the elevators at speed but if you plan your dive angle properly theres no need to let off the throttle or to use elevator trim.  The gun package is awsome set at 400.  At 650 not so much.  Finally, stay out of enemy gunfire.  If you lose half a wing it's nearly impossible to get it home.

[RipChord929]

There ya go Nemesis..  Some good advice from ppl who have been around this cartoon airplane stuff for a long time...

  RC

[Nemisis]

The cannons are not, in fact, close to the fuselage. They are outboard of the landing gear and well clear of the prop. You may have been thinking of the Fw190, which fires through the prop with its 20mm guns.

Well not CLOSE close, but better then about half the planes I've seen. I tested the convergance setting and I found it CAN be set out to 650, but it is harder to land hits at closer ranges, but is better set at 400 as you said. I currently have it set at 450, but that's just personal preferance.

And thanks guys. No flaps; flaps=dead, will wobble or spin if pulled out past early stall buzzer, smooth stick, turns fairly well in early stall buzzer, climb rate good, roll not the best, stay away from infront of unfriendly people.

One more question: Would this be a decent bomber interceptor, at med to low alt? Or is this more of a dogfighter?

[druski85]

I've always thought it to be a capable interceptor due to a large amount of 20 mm rounds, strong climb rate, and decent top speed.  Just don't be afraid to start firing when the buffs (which you should probably be attacking from above and off angle ) are still under that big old nose. 

[Nemisis]

OK, so I see it can out turn an La 7, does that mean it is a decent dogfighter? Or does that mean if can out trun an La 7, and that that means nothing?

[Krusty]

Well, the guns are probably wider than spitfire cannons, zero cannons, hurricane cannons. Not quite as far out as P47 guns, but about average with most 50cal armed planes. Oh, and the La7 will out turn it almost every day of the week.

It's not a great turn fighter. It's "okay" but where it really shows potential is the overall good qualities combined (so make a high turn and come back down to conserve E, or vertical yoyos, or high speed turns that bleed E, and using horsepower to regain the E, etc).

As for intercepting bombers, it can, but it's hit or miss. Not literally, but sometimes I've unloaded my entire ammo load into a box of B-24s with nothing to show for it, and sometimes I get lucky and land 10 bomber kills in one. Overall it's vulnerable to the super-WEP way bombers work in AH, and it can be shot to pieces easily by tail gunners. Seems that the 20mm are weaker than the 190's guns, but it may just be a false perception.

[Nemisis]

I took it out in the offline to test it's guns, and it seemed quite capable. I smoked a P-38 in something like 2.5 secs, not all firing time, I killed a bomber in something like 7 secs, and a 190 in 2. I am a terrible shot with the C. 205 as I expended an average of 30 cannon rounds per fighter. I'm sure this will drop as I get used to the fighter. It seemed like the 190's cannons are at about par with C. 205.

[ToeTag]

-medium and high speed turns are very good.
-will turn with an LA in this category.

-Low speed is crap (loose E and your meat)
-Climb is better than good and improves with Alt
-Buff hunting is great if you plan on strafing runs (Always recommended vs sitting @ 600 on 6 Oclk)
-Great range and time on target
-High cannon count if you can make them count
-you will soon get used to the fact that you have to use your jedi powers to see through the nose
-if you can start turning inside your opponent while in the dive you will keep eyes on the target for longer

As mentioned before it should be flown like any high E fighter.
-never dive in below your closet targets without imediatley climing out for another high speed pass.
-If you get into trouble climb at max angle (keep 200 MPH) Should maintain 4000+ FPM and save your tail.
-vne 400 MPH before trying to climb out of a dive (broken parts and a hole in the ground)
-WEP recovery is very fast as compared to most planes
-400 Convergence is best for cannon and max 650 for nose guns
-use nose guns for target accusition and cannon for wing popping

stick to these rules and you will land way more often.  This plane, I fly more than anything else and it gets me home. 3 to 4 kills dead or alive usually

[Motherland]

Seems that the 20mm are weaker than the 190's guns, but it may just be a false perception.

Probably because the 190's are closer in, and because the 190 has more effective .50 caliber guns (the SAFAT's suck...).

[Nemisis]

Probably because the 190's are closer in, and because the 190 has more effective .50 caliber guns (the SAFAT's suck...).

Pretty much. I still use them though. The cannons ARE at par. Thanks guys. I found everything I needed unless you all have more to add.